<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5428265020990529879</id><updated>2011-11-04T14:46:52.394-05:00</updated><title type='text'>What the Bible Teaches About</title><subtitle type='html'></subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5428265020990529879/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Billy Wells</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13428497218448410368</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://www.bountyhunt.com/Billy.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>14</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5428265020990529879.post-3505504623379660901</id><published>2011-10-11T10:08:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-10-11T10:09:17.097-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Q: Why dont you attend church somewhere?</title><content type='html'>I am very glad you asked....how can two walk together except they agree?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1.   I dont agree with padded pews and preachers salaries, mega churches,  huge buildings and waste of God's money and building men's kingdoms.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Not one commission in the Bible for us to build buildings and pay professionals.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3.  The commission in the Bible was to feed and support the poor, orphans and widows.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4.   The clergy are not to "rule over or lord" over the laity, for God hated  the class system in the "modern church".  doctrine of the Nicolaitans   (clergy rule over laity).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5.  Most importantly :  the day is coming and now is when you will  neither worship in the mountain or in Jerusalem ( You will not go  anywhere to worship) but you will worship in Spirit and Truth.  What  liberty!  John 4:21&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;6.  The first church in the Book of Acts met house to house to eat a meal. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;7.   It is impossible to go "what" we are.  We are the body of Christ the  Church, His called out ones.  We can not go to a place called the church  when we are the Church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;8.  There is no Temple, Sanctuary, Holy Place, Holy platform, holy  pulpit any longer nor men in priest robes pretending to be priest or  holy men of God!   We don't go to a longitude or latitude to worship but  we worship in Attitude, (spirit and truth).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;9.  I am very much against the sects and divisions of the Body of  Christ caused by "demon" nations (denomination).  Is Christ divided? I  am Baptist, I am Methodist, I am Pentecostal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is much more but I don,t want to bore you.  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Thanks Billy for offering to study the Word.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Camping at The Mountain of positional authority.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Word of God sets up boundaries and relationships for men, women and families.  This makes a lot of people mad!  Just as Satan usurped God's position by desiring to be like Most High, we find that positional relationships and positional authority is the ground work for original sin!  Wow  "Usurping authority"! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Isa 14:13-14&lt;br /&gt;13    For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:&lt;br /&gt;14    I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gen 2:15-17&lt;br /&gt;15    The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it.&lt;br /&gt;16    And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden;&lt;br /&gt;17    but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die."&lt;br /&gt;(NIV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God sets a boundary for mankind.  You may freely eat of all the garden but not of the tree I have reserved for myself.  What was that tree?  The ability to play God and decide what is right and wrong for one's self.  Most assuredly God is saying here, He alone has the unique right to decide right and wrong and man is forbidden to participate in that type of decision making.  We are to live from the Tree of Life doing the will of God an never play God by trying to decide our own right and wrong.  What a great weight is lifted from the shoulders of the man/woman who learns it is not about choosing right or wrong, never molesting your mind trying to decide.  Only what is the "will of God" is what we are to do, live from the Tree of Life (the will of God).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why not simply remove the temptation, the Tree Forbidden, from the garden?  Because God always puts before us the test, will we submit to the will of God or will we usurp our authority over God's plan and exercise our "rights"?  I will decide for myself what is right or wrong.  I will decide to abort, or choice life.  I will decide what kind of sex I will participate in and the will of God is to have no bearing upon my decision, it is my right!   After all I have rights, over my body, over my choices of sexual preference, over my life and no one is going to tell me what to do.  I will decide what is right and wrong for me, says the person smacking his lips on the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge.   "We will wear our own apparel (self righteousness) and eat our own bread (decide what is right or wrong for ourselves) but just let us be called by Your name (Christian) to remove our reproach." Isa 4:1&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think it is time to stress here: Spiritual authority is never about domination but submission.  God will not dominate us, we must submit.  The power of Spiritual authority is derived from submission.  All positional authority in the Kingdom  of God is from the ground of submission, never dominance. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Gen 2:22-24&lt;br /&gt;22    And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.&lt;br /&gt;23    And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.&lt;br /&gt;24    Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Powerful message in the above passage for us to grasp regarding positional authority, or spiritual authority.  "A man shall leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife..."   How many do we know that will never leave their mother or father?  You can never reach a proper relationship with your mate if you are still clinging to your mother/father.  You must leave them and stick like glue (cleave) to your mate.  We are to honor parents, but no longer are we under the dominion of mothers or father.  We have left them. They should not rule our lives or homes with our mates, they should learn to butt out and not interfere !  We should not permit their interference with our married lives.  Don't listen to council unless it is Godly council.  When we allow parents to control married children or we as parents try to control our married children we are completely out of sync with the Spirit and plan of God.  We are not in right relationship.  If you are not in right relation with one another you cannot be in right relationship with God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is a powerful truth:  If we are not in right relationship with one another then we are not in right relationship with God.  He has set the boundaries and we need to live by the Tree of Life (doing the will of God).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our relationships one with another sets the foundation for our relationship with God.  That needs to sink in our inner most being. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;1 Tim 2:13-14&lt;br /&gt;13    For Adam was first formed, then Eve.&lt;br /&gt;14    And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Adam was not deceived.  Eve was deceived.  What exactly happened here?  God told Adam and then Adam told Eve not to partake of the Tree of Good and Evil.  Eve was instructed by her head just as Adam was instructed by his head.  Eve was not directly told by God not to eat of the Tree.  She had to take her instruction from her headship.  The head of the woman is the man and the head of the man is Christ and the head of Christ is God.  There is the positional authority laid out by God all the way back in the Garden of Eden.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Adam was not deceived, but followed Eve into sin.  Why?  Because he loved her.  (As Christ loved the Church, He who knew no sin became sin to save His Bride).  Powerful if you can receive it.  A type of the love and the sacrifice of Jesus for us.  Eve was disobedient to her head, was not in submission and not in right relation to Adam, thus was not in right relation to God and all hell broke loose.  Even seen that happen?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Genesis plays a great roll in laying foundational truths about relationships.  Many read Genesis and never glean the little nuggets of truth lying there among the words.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Bible says Adam did not sin like Eve did.  What is the difference?   Eve's sin was brought on by independent self-willed action.  Her action was done apart from headship authority.  She wanted it her way!  She acted independently as a liberated woman!  The very first woman's lib movement!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gen 3:6&lt;br /&gt;6    And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here we have the basis of all sin pointed out: 1.  Lust of the eyes 2. Lust of the flesh 3. The pride of life.  The door of opportunity was there because Eve was not resting under her headship, she was out gazing lustfully at the forbidden tree.  It was not His will be done, but my will be done, Eve said.  Satan tempted Eve by challenging  what God said and God's motives for saying it.  "You shall NOT surely die.  You will be like God, able to make your own decisions."   "God wants to cheat you out of the opportunity of deciding right from wrong by not allowing you to eat this wonderful eye-opening fruit of knowledge."  "You can be like God, the Most High, and make your own decisions by deciding what is right and wrong!"  "You don't need positional authority, you can be your own boss!"  "You don't need a head, you are as good as any man!"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Down goes all of humanity down the road to pain, suffering, work and hardships followed by death just because Eve was not in right positional relationship to her head, Adam.  Adam did not sin like Eve did...Eve led and Adam followed.  A woman leading the family unit is a wrong positional relationship.  Let that sink in.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Gen 3:16-19&lt;br /&gt;16    To the woman he said, "I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you."&lt;br /&gt;17    To Adam he said, "Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree about which I commanded you, 'You must not eat of it,' "Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat of it all the days of your life.&lt;br /&gt;18    It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field.&lt;br /&gt;19    By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return."&lt;br /&gt;(NIV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Above is part of the curse God pronounced upon the disobedient.  Most people know some of this, like, sweat of the brow and pain in child birth and dust to dust.  But how many have ever noticed how God reinforced the order of authority in the curse?   He tell the woman your craving shall be toward your husband and he will exercise dominion over you.  That is the part of the curse we leave off.  The woman's (liberation) rights movements from the beginning have been to magnify the independent self-will actions of woman apart from their headship.  You see the battle is really not flesh against flesh, woman against man,but is spiritual battle of usurping the headship God ordained for women in the curse.  It is Satan against God and he has just used the woman's liberation movement to manifest that spiritual war.  We even have women dressing and acting like men.  (Butch we say)  The world is the enemy of God and it is manifested (made evident) often in relationships.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God said positionally that a woman will desire toward  for her husband and he will rule (have dominion) over her, but Satan said a woman is just as good as a man in any relationship.  Right now there are some that want to argue as they smack their lips on the fruit of self-will and independent actions.  As the juice of deciding right and wrong runs down their chins and fall on their shirts they cry aloud..."Foul!"  "Not Fair!"&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Gen 3:20-21&lt;br /&gt;20    And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.&lt;br /&gt;21    Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ever wonder where did God get the coats of skin?  Did He just pick a couple up at Wal-Mart?  Of course not.  Adam and Eve sinned, way back in the Garden and God demonstrated the plan of salvation.  1.  Adam and Eve knew they were naked before God (sinners).  2.  They needed a covering (righteousness).  3.  Naked before God was unacceptable (caused them to hide from God). 4.  It took the killing of an animal, the shedding of blood to produce a covering for the sinner (reconciliation) .  5.  God's only plan for the covering of sin (justification) is the death of the innocent to cover the sin of the guilty.  6.  Here an animal was killed, it blood poured out an offering and sin was covered by the shedding of blood.  7.  Adam was taught by God what was an acceptable sacrifice, the shedding of the blood of an innocent animal ( most probably a lamb).  8.  Adam was to convey or teach this truth to his children.  The responsibility of teaching truth to our children rest squarely upon the shoulder of the parents and NOT upon the shoulders of the Sunday school teacher.  Read that last sentence again and let it sink in...no wonder "Sunday church" wont work!  It is out of spiritual order.   Fathers teach your children, not Sunday school teach their children!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Deut 6:6-7&lt;br /&gt;6    "And these words, which I am commanding you today, shall be on your heart;&lt;br /&gt;7    and you shall teach them diligently to your sons and shall talk of them when you sit in your house and when you walk by the way and when you lie down and when you rise up.&lt;br /&gt;(NAS)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Parental responsibility everyday all day long, not just Sunday!   If we can't get this right then nothing works right.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Example:  Families with absent fathers to train and teach their children raise children that end up being families with out dads, dads without wives, and woman with kids and no husbands and the vicious cycle continues on and on ever spiraling out of control.  Why?  No one steps up to the plate of Spiritual Authority obeys God and stops destruction in it tracks!  Fathers be godly fathers and train your children up in the ways of the Lord.  No one has that God given responsibility but you! &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Gen 4:3-5&lt;br /&gt;3    And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD.&lt;br /&gt;4    And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering:&lt;br /&gt;5    But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why did God not accept Cains fruits and vegetables?  Why was this not acceptable to God?  Adam taught these sons what God expected, or else how could one get it right?  Only by the shedding of  blood can one be accepted!  But Cain eating the fruit of self will and independent action thought his sacrifice just as "good" as Abel's and got mad at God and his brother when it was refused by God.  What a pattern we see here for the self-willed being manifested.  I don't care what is in right order or right standing with God, I will do it my way!  God has established a plan and order.  He did not confer with me or you in setting this thing up.  But He did convey to us His wishes and we must "submit" to God and His plans and purpose to be accepted.  Fathers teach your children and children follow the leading of godly parents!  God set the positional authority for a purpose.  I am not to beat submission into someone, for all Spiritual Authority comes from a "willing" submission.  In any situation I am too look around and see where I belong as far as authority and submission in every relationship and instance in my life.  Sometimes I must submit and other times I must lead.  Most times I must BE QUIET and other times I am to talk.  You can always tell who is submitted and under the control of the Spirit by how much they talk.  Some people who really have nothing to say, can't shut up.  They are completely out of spiritual control.  If any man cannot control his tongue.....( a sign of submission)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even if I don't know or can't see the why, I must do it God's way.  I must submit under the Hand of God in all things and at all times.  I must be more willing to listen than to speak and in every situation I must find my place in submission, my place in positional authority.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cain unwilling to submit to God and His plan, killed his brother with hatred.  Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;The Will of God vs the Tree of Knowledge.  God's will vs man's way.  God's will vs Independent Action.  God's will vs self-will.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The problem with most "religion" is that its basis is from the Tree of Knowledge, man deciding what is right or wrong  (man's doctrines instead of the will of God).  Why do we have 400 different denominations in America?  Everyone doing what seems right in their own eyes, and eating from the Tree of Knowledge.  Lets see if we have Bible example? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gen 22:2&lt;br /&gt;2    And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First question the "religious" must ask, "Is this request right or wrong? (Tree of Knowledge)"  "Why of course this request is wrong!  God would never require a human sacrifice!"  We would spend the next 100 years debating the topic at our annual conventions.  Some would "choose life" and they would start the church of the "non-sacrificial".  Their doctrine would be no one has to die to be saved, we can all be saved without a sacrifice.  &lt;u&gt;The Church of the Bloodless&lt;/u&gt;.  Oh some would say, no this is to be symbolic, we must offer to take our son, but God does not really expect us to offer him on the mountain so there is no real need for you to put actions to your faith.  &lt;u&gt;Faith&lt;/u&gt;&lt;u&gt;  &lt;/u&gt;&lt;u&gt;Church&lt;/u&gt;&lt;u&gt; Without Actions&lt;/u&gt;!  Then of course the &lt;u&gt;Church Who Offers Less&lt;/u&gt;.  Not my only beloved son, no I will offer fruits and vegetables.  And on and on the list grows, as each Church decides in her own eyes what is right and wrong before God.  Thus we have 400 different sects of divisions in Christianity.   Some blame God and some blame the Bible for sects in Christianity, but I blame men eating from the Tree of Knowledge and "playing God".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not so with father Abraham!  He is a man that eats only from the Tree of Life (The will of God).  It does not take discussion, church voting, pastor approval, prayer and fasting, study of God's Word and all the other things we do to sidestep doing the Will of God.  We have to analyze everything in light of the Fruit of the Tree of Good and Evil!   The beginning of all religion.  In the name of God we refrain from doing the Will of God from the heart and we always operate from the "ground" of what is right or wrong in our own eyes.  Offering your son on a fire on a mountain can only be evil and we do not have to obey God.  We will wear our own apparel and eat our own bread, just let us be called Christians so there will be no reproach. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;1 Sam 25:3&lt;br /&gt;3    His name was Nabal and his wife's name was Abigail. She was an intelligent and beautiful woman, but her husband, a Calebite, was surly and mean in his dealings.&lt;br /&gt;(NIV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What a beautiful story of a wonderful wife married and submitted to a horrible husband!  The Bible says if you are kind to them that are kind to you what thanks have you?  If you greet only them that greet you what thanks have you?  Even the sinners do that.  The real test of our submission is how do we act in the face of adversity.  Do we excuse ourselves from our spiritual and positional responsibility because someone else does not act right?  Are we excused because we are married to a mean man or a contentious woman?  Are Christians only Christians  when everything goes our way and it is all right according to our knowledge of good and evil.  I will if you will, but you must do it first?  I will submit if you are a good husband?  I will love and protect only if you are a good wife?  Not so with Abigail.  She was married to a wicked man, and loved and protected him from the wrath of David.  In the end she became the wife of the King!   Oh, that we could see, if only we will submit and find our place in positional authority, that no matter how others act, we will some day be married to the King of Kings!  Oh, how wonderful the ways of God! &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Heb 13:17&lt;br /&gt;17    Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The word "obey" in the above verse has this meaning:  Persuade, be persuaded, to trust to have confidence.  This is not quite the meaning we have developed in the modern "pastoral" church setting.  The modern church is more like, "Do what I say, I am the Man of God, the Pastor of this church and you must obey me."  Using God's Word to beat people into submission is not God's way!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"What is wrong with the "pastoral" system of the modern church?"  I thought you would never ask!  It is outside of Positional Authority.  It has no biblical basis. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1.  No one man is to "lord over" the Church.  Mark 10:42-44&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2.  Elders (plural) in every Church (singular)  Acts 14:23&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3.  Elder/Pastor is an office desired by a man not "called of God to pastor this church".  I Titus 3:1&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. To serve and minister in a servant's position exampled by foot washing, not "lording with preeminence" (sitting in front in the BIG chair).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unfortunately we have a "pastoral system" modeled after the "priest system" of the Roman  Mother Church.  We choose one man to be our leader, our priest, to pray for us, teach us, comfort us, forgive us, order us about, council us and be our guide about spiritual and natural matters.  We become so dependent upon our Moses, that we never learn how to read, study and be led of the Spirit of God within.  By hiring a paid professional we have relinquished our rights for spiritual leadership by the Holy God within in each of us.  We sit back and let the professional feed us, burp us, rock us, and coddle us, baby us right on in to the kingdom of men.  ( I know, I have dared to touch the golden calf of our religion, the Pastor!) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God's plan was for us to have a  plurality of leadership in the local assembly so that we could all hold to the real Head, Christ (not the one Pastor).  With elders (plural) we would have a system of checks and balances in the local body leadership.  Each watching and serving the other. No big I and little You in the kingdom  of God.  No paid professionals, but common men among us, ordained to operate in the office of elder.  Some elders would labor in the Word and others would not.  We were to be persuaded of them and to trust them, but not "obey" in the sense of the modern religious system of today does.  We are to be Holy Ghost, Spirit-led and not man-led, pastor-led, Moses led.  Our submission to the local leadership of elders in the local body was to be when they had a servants position and not an elevated position of men on the high platform and the Big Chair.  You should personally inquire of the Spirit about this matter.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Eph 5:25&lt;br /&gt;25    Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Husbands love your wives if they are trustworthy loyal,helpful, friendly,courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent.  That is how we read the above passage as we smack our lips on the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge.  We justify our actions by the actions of others.  But where in this verse does it say husbands love your wives "if the are"?   The real test of our faith is how do we love.  Do we love the unlovable?  Do we cherish and protect the hateful?  Do we pray and bless those that spitefully use and abuse us?  If we are kind and loving only to the lovable, what thanks have we?  Even the sinner does that.  No!  I must take my place as a husband to love and cherish my wife and treat her as I would my own body.  I am to pray for her and watch out for her and bless and not curse her.  I am to help her along her way to know God by my EXAMPLE!  Who knows if my lifestyle will not convert her to know God in a saving way?  Who knows what the end results of a life spent in "challenging" relationship?  I am to find my place and operate in it and live of the Tree of Life, by the Will of God.  Husband love your wives....only if you want to, so the "world" says.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Eph 5:21&lt;br /&gt;21    Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God. (KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another verse says: Each esteeming the other higher than themselves.  That is the key to submission.  How do I see the other guy?  How do I see my brother, higher in the Lord than me?  Remember we all have different experiences in God and we each are at our own level of development in the Spirit.  No one has arrived yet.  We are all still growing in grace and knowledge until we stand in the full stature of Christ.  We are to submit in love to one another seeing the other higher than ourselves and to love them with the Love of God.  The challenge is not to love the lovable but to love the unlovable!  Anyone can love the lovable, what is the test in that?  The test and trial is how do I conduct myself around the brother and sister that is hard to get along with?  Oh, the testing of the Spirit of God!&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;1 Pet 2:18-19&lt;br /&gt;18    Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.&lt;br /&gt;19    For it is commendable if a man bears up under the pain of unjust suffering because he is conscious of God.&lt;br /&gt;(NIV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think the employed could identify with slaves as those under authority.  Peter's admonition here is for one to submit and respect not only those bosses that are good to us, but also the harsh.  It is good for us to bear up under unjust suffering because of our understanding of God.  Christians should be the model employees of honesty and attitude.  Why?  Because our testimony is our witness of the living God resident in our lives.  We show the world the invisible God.  We put hands and feet and a mouth to God's presence to be seen in the world we live in.  So every aspect of our lives should bear witness to our faith.  We work harder, we preform better, we are more trustworthy, because of the Life within us.  We are not only kind to those bosses that are good, but also to those that tread on our last nerve!  Wow! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This subject of positional authority covers all our relationships in life, at work, at home, at play, in friendship, in marriage and in family dynamics.  Living for God goes way beyond a Sunday morning visit to a church building and staring at the back of the neck of the person in front of you.  This Christian thing gets right down into our very core!   We bring God to light to a dark and dying world.  We humble ourselves in all situations to show the way of the Spirit is not commanding and demanding, but love, peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Word says His ways are not our ways.  So we have to get out of the way!  We have to let the Spirit of God live out His life in us.   He took upon Himself the humble attitude of a servant and served.  Follow Me, He said.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Eph 6:1-3&lt;br /&gt;1    Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.&lt;br /&gt;2    Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise;)&lt;br /&gt;3    That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The word "obey" above means to hearken and submit.  Children listen to your parents in the Lord and submit to them.  "Honor" means to value as a prize.  The Bible predicts in the last days people would be without natural affection.  What would be natural affection?  The love of a man for his wife, and a wife for her husband and the love of family, children for parents and parents towards children.  But in this day men are lovers of themselves.  They don't love God and have lost all natural affection for mate and child.  I watch First 48 Hours on TV about true homicide investigation and constantly they describe victims and defendants as the father of 3 children (not the husband of anyone).  Proof of where our godless society has come to.  Without natural affections, and lovers of self more than lovers of God.  Fathers without wives, and mothers without husbands result in children growing up without godly examples who soon become a shame to society.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is a promise that comes to children that honor and submit to and obey their parents.  The promise is a long blessed and prosperous life.  But a disobedient child will be the shame of his mother.  Where do we stand?  Do we prize our parents?  Have we obeyed and submitted?  Have we allowed the Spirit of God to re-create in us again the "natural" affections? &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Titus 3:1-2&lt;br /&gt;1    Remind the people to be subject to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready to do whatever is good,&lt;br /&gt;2    to slander no one, to be peaceable and considerate, and to show true humility toward all men.&lt;br /&gt;(NIV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lastly we are to submit to governments.  We are to obey them as God's ministers.  We are to do that not because they are always right, but because God does not want us to suffer as evil doers.  We are to be ready to do good, to bless and not curse, to go the extra mile, to be willing to share what we have.  The "half-breed" on the way to Jericho found a man beaten and bleeding in a ditch beside the road.  He stopped and bound up his wounds, put him on his beast and carried him to the inn keeper and paid for his lodging and care.  Of course that beaten and bloody man was me, and Jesus was the God-man, the half-breed, that found me.  He lifted me up, carried me and paid my way to health and restoration and said  if I needed anything else He would pay when He returned.  Oh' what the Love of God looks like, so beautiful!  That was me and Him, and now it is Him in me....&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5428265020990529879-6758645419893072729?l=whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com/feeds/6758645419893072729/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5428265020990529879&amp;postID=6758645419893072729' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5428265020990529879/posts/default/6758645419893072729'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5428265020990529879/posts/default/6758645419893072729'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com/2011/03/postional-authority.html' title='Postional Authority'/><author><name>Billy Wells</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13428497218448410368</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://www.bountyhunt.com/Billy.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5428265020990529879.post-4171394549316287154</id><published>2010-10-10T15:25:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2010-10-10T15:29:18.836-05:00</updated><title type='text'>3 Dimension of the Spirit</title><content type='html'>The Courtyard, Holy Place and Holiest of Holies represent 3 possible dimentions of the spiritual life of a believer.  The Courtyard is where most believers end up living their entire spiritual lives.  The courtyard is the place of presentation.  Here is where the sacrifice is presented to God, and the washing of the brazen laver.  All most every modern church service is simply a presentation of the gospel over and over and a presentation of performance of "church" with the spectators who are encouraged to present again and again their lives to Christ.  From the Courtyard their bread must be brought to them from somewhere else by someone else who has access to that bread. For that reason the Courtyard Christian represents spiritual babies that must be fed by someone else: i.e. priest, pastors, men with titles and robes who appear to the courtyard Christian to be men or women of elevation.  (modern high places)  The Courtyard Christian knows something is happening beyond the Door curtain but have never actually pressed through himself to become partaker of show bread eaten in the light of God's spirit.  He is a baby and must have someone bring the bread to him and feed him outside of the Holy Place, not realizing that with faith he too could press into the Holy Place where the manifestation happens.  The first dimension of the spirit is presentation (the Courtyard), the second dimension of the spirit is manifestation, (the Holy Place). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Eph 4:14&lt;br /&gt;14    That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine...&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The 2nd dimension of the spirit is represented by the Holy Place the "manifestation".  The children and babes in Christ are required to grow up and not to continue in their infancy, ordered so by the Word.  Unfortunately they are kept captive in a system that coddles babies and non-growers on church pews. Religion's main purpose is to "stay saved", while God's plan is for man to progress from grace to grace and from faith to faith.  The baby Christian want to have the gospel presented to him in an entertaining fashion where he can draw his milk from a breast presented to him, never venturing beyond the Courtyard.  When, with a small amount of faith, he could push his way into the Holy Place and experience the Bread and Light of God's Word for himself.  He can come into the manifestation of God's light and Word and make direct prayer to God without the help of Clergy (Nicolaitans Rev 2:15).  Now, in the Holy Place the growing Christian is in a new spirit realm of signs, voices, wonders and manifestations.  If the 80/20 rule is true in the natural then perhaps it too holds true in the spirit.  Then only about 20% of the new Christians ever go beyond the Courtyard (1st dimension) on to the Holy Place (2nd dimension), inside the Door, to the wonderful manifestations of God.  In the Holy Place (2nd dimension) they love the signs and wonders, direct inspirations, feasting in God's presence on His Word and enjoying the wonders revealed by the Light of the Spirit.  Now I believe a full 80% of those that enter the Holy Place live there for the rest of their spiritual lives, endlessly seeking a greater manifestation of the spirit and another sign or voice.  Running here and there looking for this and that miracle, sign, wonder and seeking signs.  Nothing wrong with this place in the spirit, any more than coming through the Courtyard, but God wants to meet us in the 3rd dimension of the Spirit.  We are to grow in grace and knowledge and we have not arrived until we enter the Holiest of Holies.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There will be a people that will ever learn but never be able to come to the knowledge of the real Truth (the fullness of Jesus).  They will live out the spiritual lives without having reached the promised rest!  Not having faith, the Word says, they could not enter in.  There are many in the Courtyard who not having faith will never press through the Door to the Holy Place. The will ever continue going to church. Their faith lacks substance and evidence.  Their milk it too watery to cause the growth the spirit man.  They have heaped to themselves teachers and turn readily to fables.  We have arrived they say as they sit in the rain in the Courtyard.  For those 20% that do venture by faith through the Door, they become fascinated upon the signs, and voices, and wonders and revelations, and forget there is a 3rd dimension, and a full 80% of those who enter the Holy Place (2nd dimension) never go beyond the Veil into the 3rd dimension. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is those 20% of the 20% who by the Spirit they are made to understand, there is the fullness that God seeks for us.  We need to go through the Veil (all things fleshly) and enter into the Holiest of Holies, the 3rd dimension of the spirit, to Habitation.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Eph 2:22&lt;br /&gt;22    In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So far we have determined there are 3 spiritual dimensions portrayed in the Tabernacle.  The Courtyard (presentation) the Holy Place (manifestation) and the Holiest of Holies (habitation).  We have also determined that by far most Christians spend their entire spiritual journey in the Courtyard of presentation, having the gospel repeatedly presented to them never going beyond the infancy of the spirit.  They have to be fed by someone else eating the milk of the Word, relying on the clergy to bring substance to them from within the Door.  They are in love with the priest/pastoral system. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some Christians venture by faith through the Door into the Holy Place where they find the light of the Spirit and Bread for Life.  They become excited by the new found manifestations in the Spirit and seem to always seek more and greater manifestations but yet not able by faith to press beyond the veil (all flesh) and into the Holiest of Holies where we find habitation of God, the Rest. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do not think for a minute that I am down on the Courtyard or Holy Place experiences!  No!  But we must grow in grace and knowledge and progress from faith to faith.  Not acting as though we have already arrived, but we press on to the highest calling.  Paul said that I might know Him.  It is entering into the Rest, the true Sabbath of God were we cease from our own "religious" labors and go beyond all flesh into habitation. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We are to grow up into Him in all things!  That is beyond the veil.  We are to come into the full stature of the measure of Christ.  That is beyond the veil.  Everyone of us ought to examine ourselves and see where are we in our spiritual journey?  Are we stuck in the courtyard ever learning and yet never learning?  Have we moved on to manifestation of the Spirit and gotten so excited that now we want to live here ever seeking a greater manifestation?  Or have we become a habitation for the dwelling place of God, where we live and walk in the Spirit and enjoy the Rest of God?  Where am I on this journey?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5428265020990529879-4171394549316287154?l=whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com/feeds/4171394549316287154/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5428265020990529879&amp;postID=4171394549316287154' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5428265020990529879/posts/default/4171394549316287154'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5428265020990529879/posts/default/4171394549316287154'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com/2010/10/3-dimension-of-spirit.html' title='3 Dimension of the Spirit'/><author><name>Billy Wells</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13428497218448410368</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://www.bountyhunt.com/Billy.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5428265020990529879.post-6824720922418100283</id><published>2010-10-10T15:17:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-10-10T15:17:53.870-05:00</updated><title type='text'>How I See God</title><content type='html'>John 7:38-39&lt;br /&gt;38    Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, streams of living water will flow from within him."&lt;br /&gt;39    By this he meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were later to receive. Up to that time the Spirit had not been given, since Jesus had not yet been glorified.&lt;br /&gt;(NIV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1 Cor 12:13&lt;br /&gt;13    For we were all baptized by one Spirit into one body-- whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free-- and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.&lt;br /&gt;(NIV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would like to share a thought given to me.  I even dreamed about this thought and have been pondering it several days.  I would like to share with you how I see God.  Using the above verses I want you to see it is not a stretch to compare God to water (H2O).  Lets think of God as being H2O and from here on out I will use H2O to explain verse and perhaps to show God's very nature.  Think of the H2O over the whole earth in the form of water, vapor and ice.  Yet all the manifestations of H2O is one just as God is One. Deut 6:4.  No matter what the form or appearance God (H2O) is one.  Where the H2O appears as ocean, glacier, rain, dew or steam it is always and only H2O.  Where God appears as a burning bush, a voice from heaven, a dove or a Man, it is still only one H2O.  Eph 4:4&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now that H2O which is invisible created Himself a Vessel, a pure glass, container, a tent, a tabernacle and show us the only image of the invisible God.  That Vessel could be compared to an crystal glass that perfectly reflected the H2O within.  The glass container was not H2O but only a Vessel to contain and reveal the H2O within.  To wit: H20 was in the Vessel reconciling the world to Himself.  We beheld the Vessel as the only image of the invisible H2O.  The Vessel was born, but God was never born.  The Vessel died, but God can never die.  The Vessel bled but H2O can never bleed and die.  The Vessel became sin, but H2O can never sin.  H2O was poured without measure into the glass the Vessel.  The Vessel or glass was called by His Father's name, H2O.  The Vessel came in His Father's name H2O.  The H2O was poured out of the Vessel (why have You forsaken me) so that the Vessel could die. H2O is greater than I (the Vessel said).  No man knows the time of the end, not the Vessel only the H2O. I and my H2O are one. If you have seen Me you have seen my H2O.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the fullness of time the Vessel will surrender all to H2O so that H2O can become all in all, but until then we are still waiting for all things to be put under the feet of the Vessel which is the first visible container of H2O.    Now we Christians have become visible vessels of H2O and we too reveal the one invisible H2O to the world.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5428265020990529879-6824720922418100283?l=whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com/feeds/6824720922418100283/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5428265020990529879&amp;postID=6824720922418100283' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5428265020990529879/posts/default/6824720922418100283'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5428265020990529879/posts/default/6824720922418100283'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com/2010/10/how-i-see-god.html' title='How I See God'/><author><name>Billy Wells</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13428497218448410368</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://www.bountyhunt.com/Billy.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5428265020990529879.post-4719969400982951028</id><published>2010-09-19T15:43:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-09-19T15:44:42.246-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Economic Armageddon 2012 The Perfect Storm</title><content type='html'>Jer 12:5&lt;br /&gt;5    "If you have raced with men on foot and they have worn you out, how can you compete with horses? If you stumble in safe country, how will you manage in the thickets by the Jordan?&lt;br /&gt;(NIV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The stage is being set.  1. We need a one world government.  2.  We need a one world leader.  3.  We need a one world money system.  The whole world is clambering for the answer and the god of this world will give it. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God had Israel's provision planned during the time of famine in the days of Joseph.  God sent Joseph ahead to store up natural provision during the time of plenty, but when the lean times came they ate up all that provision.  If it had not been for God's divine foresight in leading Joseph to Egypt then Israel might have died during the famine, as it was mentioned many times in the passages in Genesis.  It is hard for people to plan for drought in times of plenty and when famine comes where is the ability to save and store away?  Long gone after the times of plenty.  It is hard for us to see what is before us when it is not effecting us yet.  When we have never in our lives experienced want and need in our lifetimes.  We have been vaccinated (by prosperity) against all warnings, and are totally immune to the call of God to prepare. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we cannot keep up with the footmen, how can we run with the horses?  If we can barely make ends meet during the times of plenty, how will we ever survive during the times of calamity?  Most American's are one pay check from the edge, but they still drive their new car payments, spend 10% more every month than they earn, live with their credit cards maxed out, like the American government thinking there is no payday for our foolish spending attitudes of debt and over consumption.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If that were not enough, our entire economic system is built upon a depleting supply of oil.  Some day there will only be enough oil for the rich and those of us who could not see the handwriting on the wall, or at least discern the times are destined to be without oil and gas priced out of our reach.  Every great civiliztion in history has failed.  Not one has continued in their greatness.  Not one!  How is it we cannot understand that too applies to us?  Are we some how different?  Ever fiat currency in the history of the world has failed, is ours different?  Will we never run out of oil?  Will we never have to pay for the debts we are heaping?  Will the world continue to believe in our fiat money when there are Americans themselves that do not believe?  The only thing at this time keeping the fiat dollar afloat is the fear other countries have in the connection of their fiat (worthless paper money) to our fiat money.  If the US goes down so will the world in the perfect storm for the rise of a new world economy! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Never have we been at this place in time before.  No one has ever been here before us to tell us what to do to prepare.  The blind guides leading this Nation are looking backwards to predict the future, as are most Americans.  Oh, the US has always been prosperous and the government has always provided in the past so I base my future on the past. Foolishness!  If the blind lead the blind they both fall in the ditch!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, I don't!  I base my future on Jesus.  I know this world stage is being set for a takeover.  I know this world economy will crumble before the new "Beast System".  My only question to Jesus is how do I prepare?  What do you want me to do about the future?  What is the wisest thing I can do now to prepare for uncertainty?  You too must ask these questions.  If it all unravels while I am here where do I need to be?  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This is why Moses was warned when he was about to build the tabernacle: "See to it that you make everything according to the pattern shown you on the mountain."&lt;br /&gt;(NIV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God's eternal plan has always been revealed to us from Genesis until now in all the things of life.  The Bible calls it a shadow, and we often refer to is as types and shadows.  A shadow being an image of the real reflected from heaven.  The real being in heaven and the image of that real projected to us in life and story.  Let me give an example. God's plan for salvation through out all eternity has been the death burial and resurrection of the Son of Man.  Now I would like to see how many times that shadow was cast upon the earth to us, in the actions of the people of the Bible.  The very first reflection of God's plan of death burial and resurrections was when Cain killed righteous Abel his brother.  Here we see the death of Abel (the righteous potential of man)  his body hid to all but God,(burial) and then God's giving another son, Seth (resurrection).  Death Burial Resurrection thus revealed.  You might say that is a stretch to reach that conclusion, but it will become more clear and apparent as we progress along this line.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gen 6:6-7&lt;br /&gt;6    And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.&lt;br /&gt;7    And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The sentence of death upon all men of the earth.  This is our second of the types and shadows of God's only saving plan in the Bible, death burial and resurrection.  Here death is pronounced thus all men died.  But Noah found grace and was buried in the ark for the 40 days of judgment and then was resurrected (in type) from the dead and raised to walk in a new earth/new creation.  Death, burial and resurrection is that common thread running all through the Bible as we will begin to see.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gen 7:12&lt;br /&gt;12    And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Death burial and resurrection again pictured in the flood of Noah.  The whole world was judged, executed and buried during the 40 day flood upon the earth.  Then rising from the dead, life was reborn from the old creation in a type of resurrection from the dead.  We will see this common thread through out all the Bible, another proof man did not devise or construct the Word of God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gen 22:3-4&lt;br /&gt;3    And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and saddled his ass, and took two of his young men with him, and Isaac his son, and clave the wood for the burnt offering, and rose up, and went unto the place of which God had told him.&lt;br /&gt;4    Then on the third day Abraham lifted up his eyes, and saw the place afar off.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here we see God adding one more ingredient to Death, Burial  and Resurrection.  He add 3 days (in type the time in the grave) to reveal the burial time of Jesus.  Here we have the command of God to sacrifice Isaac, and at that point Isaac was dead in the mind of Abraham.  They journeyed 3 days in the wilderness to get to the place of the sacrifice, thus 3 days in the tomb, and then on the mountain a substitution was provided and Isaac was raised from the dead and given back to his father, Abraham in type.  People who say man wrote the Bible have never studied it too deeply or they would know, God has had a theme running the length of all the pages, of all the writers and of all the times...Death Burial and Resurrection. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rom 4:19&lt;br /&gt;19    And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own body now dead, when he was about an hundred years old, neither yet the deadness of Sarah's womb:&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God demonstrated once again His plan of death, burial and resurrection in the birth of the son of promise.  Both Abraham and Sarah were dead as far as the human possibility of bearing children.  Who has ever heard of a 90 year old woman becoming pregnant?  Yet Abraham in death (100 yrs of age)  planted his seed in the womb of the earth (woman 90 yoa) and the son of promise was born (resurrected from death and burial).  God finger-painted His plan on the canvas of time for all to see.  It was not Abraham's natural son who would be heir, but the son of promise, who came by death, burial and resurrection.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gen 37:23-24&lt;br /&gt;23    And it came to pass, when Joseph was come unto his brethren, that they stript Joseph out of his coat, his coat of many colours that was on him;&lt;br /&gt;24    And they took him, and cast him into a pit: and the pit was empty, there was no water in it.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A common theme through out the Bible proves a Hand higher than man's really authored the Word of God.  Death, burial and resurrection from Genesis to Revelations demonstrates to man what God's plan is as opposed to a man's plan.  As we read and study we come to understand what God wants and expects.  The story here is Joseph.  He was hated by his brothers who plotted to kill him (death) and then lowered him in a pit (burial) and later sold him into slavery (raised to a far country to become their saviour) (resurrection).  So far we have witnessed this same theme with Seth, Noah,the creation during the flood, Abraham and Sarah's womb, Isaac, and now Joseph, but of course it must be pure chance. (wink).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jonah 1:15-17&lt;br /&gt;15    So they took up Jonah, and cast him forth into the sea: and the sea ceased from her raging.&lt;br /&gt;16    Then the men feared the LORD exceedingly, and offered a sacrifice unto the LORD, and made vows.&lt;br /&gt;17    Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You often here this story relating to people who are running from the "call" of God to preach.  (To me a glorious way to be a backslider in the eyes of people, "I can't serve God or I will have to preach")  Which I personally feel is "baloney".  Anyway back to our story.  Jonah demonstrated again to us God's plan of death burial and resurrection.  Rebelling against God, Jonah was cast in to the sea, certain death, and buried in the large fish for 3 days and 3 nights, and then resurrected (spit up on the land).  Jesus quoted this story to prove His position as Son of Man, saying just as Jonah was 3 days and 3 nights in the fish, the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the grave.  There can be no denying here, God's finger painting a picture of His divine plan of death burial and resurrection.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Exod 1:22&lt;br /&gt;22    Then Pharaoh gave this order to all his people: "Every boy that is born you must throw into the Nile, but let every girl live."&lt;br /&gt;(NIV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thus the sentence of death was pronounced upon all the newborn Israelite babies in Egypt!  Satan waiting to kill the Saviour is twice reflected in the Bible, once with Moses and once with Jesus.  But since death, burial and resurrection is God's plan for victory, Satan's plan exactly played into God's hands.  Moses was condemned to die at birth, but had God fearing parents that hid him for 3 months, but finally had to bury him in the Nile river in a reed basket.  With his sister watching from afar, Moses was resurrected by the daughter of Pharaoh and raised as Pharaoh's grandson.  The best part of God's plan, to me, was that Moses mother was paid to nurse to her own son and Moses grew up in the house of Israel's enemy and went on to become the saviour of Israel, but that is a story for another day. Death, burial and resurrection now shadowed 8 times in the Word! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Exod 2:15&lt;br /&gt;15    Now when Pharaoh heard this thing, he sought to slay Moses. But Moses fled from the face of Pharaoh, and dwelt in the land of Midian: and he sat down by a well.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Moses, had just killed an Egyptian the day before, it as made known to Pharaoh and now Moses faced the sentence of death!  Moses was to be used greatly by God but it could not happen until Moses had been through death, burial and resurrection in type.  Moses condemned to die (death) fled to the wilderness (burial) where he stayed 40 years.  40 in the Bible is a time of judgment, i.e. it rained on the earth 40 days, Moses in the wilderness 40 years, Israel in the wilderness 40 years, Jesus in the desert 40 days...etc.  Only after death, burial and resurrection was Moses ready to be used of God.  After the 40 years, Moses met God on the mountain in a burning bush and was commission (resurrection) to go to Pharaoh and set God's people free.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Exod 14:9-11&lt;br /&gt;9    The Egyptians-- all Pharaoh's horses and chariots, horsemen and troops-- pursued the Israelites and overtook them as they camped by the sea near Pi Hahiroth, opposite Baal Zephon.&lt;br /&gt;10    As Pharaoh approached, the Israelites looked up, and there were the Egyptians, marching after them. They were terrified and cried out to the LORD.&lt;br /&gt;11    They said to Moses, "Was it because there were no graves in Egypt that you brought us to the desert to die? What have you done to us by bringing us out of Egypt?&lt;br /&gt;(NIV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Looking at a common theme through the Bible speaks to me of a common author.  The Bible was penned over a 1600 year span by 44 different people without any communication between them and yet we are able to trace death, burial and resurrection, a common thread, through out the times and lives of the characters of the Bible.  A common theme to portray a common plan of God for His people that they should experience death and burial and resurrection.  Israel on the edge of the Red Sea with the sentence of death upon their heads.  They even despaired for their own lives at this point and charged Moses foolishly, not trusting God their Salvation.  They were all then buried under the sea and rose to new life on the other side.  The first church experienced death burial and resurrection as a witness to the plan of God for all men.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Exod 38:20&lt;br /&gt;20    All the tent pegs of the tabernacle and of the surrounding courtyard were bronze.&lt;br /&gt;(NIV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the most interesting stories in the Bible is the types and shadows shown to us in the pattern of the Tabernacle in the Wilderness.  Since death burial and resurrection is what we are looking at now we should examine the tent pegs, or tent stakes of the Tabernacle.  1. the tent pegs were made of brass.  Brass in the Bible always speaks to us of judgment.  The judgment of God is represented with items made of brass.  The tent pegs were driven in the ground by beating, and Jesus was beat before His death upon the cross.  The beauty of the tent peg is that it is absolutely worthless of any value in the Tabernacle if it is just laying on the ground (not driven in to the earth by pounding upon it)  And secondly if the tent peg is driven completely into the ground it is also worthless as a tent peg.  We see in type that the tent peg must both have death (beating) burial (driven into the ground) and resurrection ( have something rising from the ground).  Driven all the way in burial is worthless.  Left not buried at all, worthless.  So it takes both burial and resurrection to make the tent peg something God can use to attach His cords of love to hold up the tent of righteousness.  God's love is hung upon the resurrection!  Wow, and it goes deeper than that for those who can receive it.  ( and the say man wrote the Bible, get real! )&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Josh 3:13&lt;br /&gt;13    And it shall come to pass, as soon as the soles of the feet of the priests that bear the ark of the LORD, the Lord of all the earth, shall rest in the waters of Jordan, that the waters of Jordan shall be cut off from the waters that come down from above; and they shall stand upon an heap.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For a second time Israel passed through the sea/water/river in a miraculous way!  The sentence of death was pronounced on everyone over 20 years of age in the wilderness.  After 40 years all of Israel but 2 had died that were over 20 years of age (Joshua and Caleb did not die but entered in to the Promised land).  Death (the old man cannot inherit the Promise without dying) came to all of Israel for lack of faith in the Living God.  Now Israel was buried in type in the waters of the Jordan river and rose to new life in the land of Promise!  Twice God does the same thing with the people of Israel in demonstrating death, burial and resurrection!  Once at the Red Sea and now at the Jordan river.  Wow, how powerful is this for demonstrating the will of God for His people?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;John 12:24&lt;br /&gt;24    I tell you the truth, unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a single seed. But if it dies, it produces many seeds.&lt;br /&gt;(NIV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sower went out to sow the seed.  Of course sowing a seed speaks to us of death (above verse), burial and resurrection.  Now we have a clear picture of what God's plan was for His kingdom.  His kingdom will come via death, burial and resurrection.  The Seed is the Word of God, and the Sower is the Son of Man.  That seed planted into the hearts of believers will yield its fruit some 30 some 60 some 100 fold return.  It is becoming more and more evident that the finger of God has been painting us this picture all the way from the Garden of Eden to the last chapter in the book of the Bible, as we will continue to see as we study on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;John 11:39-40&lt;br /&gt;39    "Take away the stone," he said. "But, Lord," said Martha, the sister of the dead man, "by this time there is a bad odor, for he has been there four days."&lt;br /&gt;40    Then Jesus said, "Did I not tell you that if you believed, you would see the glory of God?"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;John 11:44&lt;br /&gt;44    The dead man came out, his hands and feet wrapped with strips of linen, and a cloth around his face. Jesus said to them, "Take off the grave clothes and let him go."&lt;br /&gt;(NIV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Death, burial and resurrection never made quite so clear as when Jesus (Resurrection Life) raised a man from the dead after 4 days.  Lazarus died, laid in the tomb 4 days and was awakened again to life by Resurrection power!  After all the Bible examples of God's plan painted over the pages of history, finally the real has arrived.  We are no longer looking at a type and shadow but at the real thing.  God's plan for all mankind and creation is for it to derive its resurrection life from the Life Source itself, Jesus.  By now the Light should be coming on in our understanding to God's divine plan, and no longer are we seeing in shadowy shapes but now face to face.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Luke 15:24&lt;br /&gt;24    For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We see death, burial and resurrection in the story of the prodigal son.  This is my son who was "dead".  Outside of the father's favor, living in sin, resulted in death.  He was dead, but by repenting and coming home he found resurrection life and total restoration.  The prodigal would have fed himself on pig's food yet he finally came to himself realizing that even a servant in his father's house faired better than himself.  Making up his mind to return, just to be a servant to his father, he found resurrection life and full restoration.  What a story for the backslider.  "Was lost" and "was dead" appears to be the state of the backslider, even though born a son of the Father! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Matt 16:24-25&lt;br /&gt;24    Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.&lt;br /&gt;25    For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here we find the death, burial and resurrection plainly articulated by Jesus.  If any man would follow Me, or be My disciple he must take up his cross (an instrument of death) and follow Me.  Where did Jesus go with His cross?  He went to Calvary to be crucified (death) and then was laid in a tomb (burial) and then on the 3rd day rose from the dead (resurrection).  If you would be His disciple you must follow Him into death, burial and resurrection.  Nothing here about a "happy confession of faith".  Jesus didn't say just believe and live.  He plainly said you must deny self, take the instrument of death and do what I did, follow Me.  Death, burial and resurrection is and has been God's only plan for salvation from Genesis to Revelations as we will see as we continue our Bible journey.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rom 6:3-4&lt;br /&gt;3    Or don't you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?&lt;br /&gt;4    We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.&lt;br /&gt;(NIV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here we have it written, the absolute will of God for each and every one of us.  God's finger penned the only plan of salvation from Genesis to Revelation and Paul finally puts it here in plain English, (actually in Greek/ or Aramaic) but for ease of understanding plain English for us.  How does God's plan of death, burial and resurrection through out the Bible apply to you and I?  Paul said we repent, (die to our old lives) and we are buried with Him (Jesus) in baptism and then resurrected to a new life with the resurrection power of the Holy Spirit.  Peter said the same exact thing in Acts 2:38-39 (in the mouth of 2 witnesses).  How can we argue with witness after witness, type and shadow one after another and now the Apostle to the Gentiles spells it out?  Yet for all this they still can't see.  Willingly ignorant!   They seem to think a "happy confession", a handshake, a church membership, a place on a pew...etc and yet can't see that God absolutely and forever requires the old man to die, be buried and be resurrected with the new life of Jesus inside!  How clear is that? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1 Cor 10:1-5&lt;br /&gt;1    For I do not want you to be ignorant of the fact, brothers, that our forefathers were all under the cloud and that they all passed through the sea.&lt;br /&gt;2    They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea.&lt;br /&gt;3    They all ate the same spiritual food&lt;br /&gt;4    and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.&lt;br /&gt;5    Nevertheless, God was not pleased with most of them; their bodies were scattered over the desert.&lt;br /&gt;(NIV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lest we think we are something special we are reminded by Paul in this letter that death, burial and resurrection happened to the Church in the Wilderness, under Moses, just as it happened to us.  They were all baptized under the cloud and under the sea.  Not only at the exodus of Egypt but again a second time at the entrance to Promised Land.  Death, burial and resurrection has always been God's plan for all people both Old and New Testament and in like manner those that did not continue in faith under Moses all died in the desert without having received the promised "rest".  Of course the "rest" Paul spoke of was the experience of living in faith, led by the Spirit, ceasing from our own labors and enjoying the grace of God.  God was not pleased with the Church in the Wilderness and most of them died in the wilderness, that being for our example.  Example of what?  Living without faith, even though experiencing death, burial and resurrection can result in us being rejected, over thrown, lost and dead without the "rest" of God, for it plainly said this was for our example.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rom 8:18-22&lt;br /&gt;18    For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us.&lt;br /&gt;19    For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God.&lt;br /&gt;20    For the creation was subjected to futility, not of its own will, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope&lt;br /&gt;21    that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.&lt;br /&gt;22    For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now.&lt;br /&gt;(NAS)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This passage, though a bit hard to understand, has a great revelation for us in the study of death, burial and resurrection.  It plainly says here that all creation is groaning with us and is eagerly awaiting the unveiling of the sons of God.  In other words the whole creation is taking part with us in the experience of death, burial and resurrection to be set free from corruption to freedom.  How have we seen all of creation involved?  The sentence of death was pronounced on every living thing in the earth that breathed air in the day of Noah.  And even now the whole creation is groaning like a woman in travail in earthquakes, storms, violence, wars and corruption, struggling to be set free!  Not only does God's plan include the Church in the Wilderness under Moses, and us the New Testament church, but it also includes the whole world, all of creation.  And they ignorantly say only a man wrote the Word of God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2 Pet 3:10&lt;br /&gt;10    But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After the 1000 year reign of Jesus' Kingdom upon the earth and just after the White Throne judgment here is where the whole earth will be baptized with fire.  The whole world experienced death, burial and resurrection in the days of Noah when the world was baptized by water and now we read where the whole world will be baptized with fire just before the New Creation.  Here, by the way, is where you will find the Lake of Fire that will burn all the wicked up with everlasting destruction following the White Throne, just in case you have ever wondered where the Lake of Fire would be in the Universe (not in the center of the earth as Dante taught).  As we see here it will happen to all creation just as it happens to the believer, water baptism, Spirit baptism and we become a New Creation, so shall the world experience the same thing, water with Noah then fire with Jesus and then a New Creation.  The pattern follows throughout the whole Word of God, thus proving we have not divided the Word according to our denominational lines or expectations, but accurately according to the types and shadows shown us in His Word repeatedly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gen 4:8&lt;br /&gt;8    Now Cain said to his brother Abel, "Let's go out to the field." And while they were in the field, Cain attacked his brother Abel and killed him.&lt;br /&gt;(NIV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This will be the  conclusion of our walk through death, burial and resurrection so let's one more time go back to the beginning and see now how clear the plan of God is when you have all the puzzle piece put together.  Out of Adam (his seed) flowed 2 possibilities, two sons. One a righteous potential (Abel) and one an unrighteous potential (Cain).  This represents through Adam all human possibility, righteousness and unrighteousness (a man can only be good or bad).  But we find here a dilemma that the unrighteous Cain killed the righteous potential Abel from the very beginning, this signifying that man in himself will always be overcome by the evil within.  What is the bottom line?  Man will never be able to save himself, his Cain will always kill his Abel (there is none righteous no not one).  But you see how God stepped in and gave another son instead of Abel in Seth, a new righteousness sprung up from the ground of death, burial and resurrection.  This new righteous son (Seth) traces his linage all the way to Jesus and thus we see, that Adam had to be born again (in type), in Seth, through death, burial and resurrection.  Hope that is now as clear to you as it is to me, that God had a plan from the garden of Eden, that salvation would come by way of death, burial and resurrection.  It would be Christ Jesus instead of Adam (the Last Adam instead of the first Adam or the New Man instead of our old man, a new creation instead of the old creation).&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5428265020990529879-1757764194090622561?l=whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com/feeds/1757764194090622561/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5428265020990529879&amp;postID=1757764194090622561' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5428265020990529879/posts/default/1757764194090622561'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5428265020990529879/posts/default/1757764194090622561'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com/2010/08/death-burial-resurrection.html' title='Death Burial Resurrection'/><author><name>Billy Wells</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13428497218448410368</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://www.bountyhunt.com/Billy.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5428265020990529879.post-704662879691325938</id><published>2010-03-09T07:58:00.004-06:00</published><updated>2010-03-09T08:14:26.830-06:00</updated><title type='text'>When is the Rapture?</title><content type='html'>Isa 28:9-10&lt;br /&gt;9    Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he  make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and  drawn from the breasts.&lt;br /&gt;10    For precept must be upon precept,  precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and  there a little:&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Knowledge and the understanding of doctrines (Bible  teachings) takes full age, not those that are still on breast milk.  Understanding and knowledge comes from being able to build line upon  line and precept upon precept from the Word of God until we can see the  full picture of God intended for us to see.  The secret things belong to  God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our children.  How  will we get this revelation?  By being of full age and having our senses  exercised to discern both good and evil, the Bible says.  If there is  any topic or subject you would like discussed simply shoot me an email  and we will see what the Word says.  Right now I would like to start a  several part series that will show us, from the Word, exactly when the  "rapture" of the church will be.  This should be interesting, but in  order to unlock the mystery we must use several Bible keys to open our  understanding.  Unless you are willing to build line upon line and  precept upon precept you will not have the mystery unfold before your  very eyes.  I will not tell you the answer of when the 'rapture' is but  will allow the Word of God to reveal it to you.  So for the next few  Seeds I will building line upon line and precept upon precept so that we  can understand knowledge and doctrine.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Remembering line upon line and precept upon precept let us begin:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1  Cor 15:51-52&lt;br /&gt;51    Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all  sleep, but we shall all be changed,&lt;div class="im"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;52    In a  moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet  shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be  changed.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;There are 4 schools of thought on the "rapture" or  catching away.  1.  There is not a rapture  2.  It happens before the  Great Tribulation period (7 yr period).  3.  It happens mid tribulation  period.  4. It happens after the tribulation period.  All my life I have  been pre-tribulation in my thinking.  God would rescue the Church out  of (before) the Great Tribulation.  The keys to unlocking the mystery  Paul spoke of is in the understanding: 1. where the dead are now? and 2.  how many resurrections are there going to be?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Most of our thinking is based upon tradition rather than the Word.   For that reason, tradition will not unlock the mystery.  The key of  tradition wont fit.  Remember that all our belief system must agree with  the Word and cannot contradict the Word. I had been unable to reconcile  my belief system, based upon traditions of men, with the Word of God,  until one day when the light came on so clearly.  How did that happen?   The keys to my understanding were based upon where the dead are now and  how many resurrections. (I repeat for importance).  The Lord had been  instructing me in an understanding where the dead are to use it as line  upon line and precept upon precept to get me to a greater  understanding.  We go from one understanding to a greater as the Lord  gives us light and it is always based line upon line and precept upon  precept.  I don't have space here to go into this teaching on the place  of the dead but challenge your to read here about the dead if you want  to possess the first key.  Once you gain this knowledge you will possess  one of the keys needed to unlock the mystery...when is the Rapture?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;click here:  &lt;a href="http://whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com/2007/11/where-dead-are-now.html" target="_blank"&gt;http://&lt;wbr&gt;whatthebibleteachesabout.&lt;wbr&gt;blogspot.com/2007/11/where-&lt;wbr&gt;dead-are-now.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rev 20:4-5&lt;br /&gt;4    And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given  unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the  witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped  the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their  foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a  thousand years.&lt;br /&gt;5    But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years  were finished. &lt;u&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;This is the first resurrection&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/u&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Line upon Line:  The Word teaches that there are 2 resurrections.  The  first and the last resurrection.  Messiah was the first fruit of the 1st  resurrection, and the "rapture" will be the conclusion of the 1st  resurrection.  First is birthed the Head (Messiah) and then the Body  (believers).  We know from yesterday's study that all the dead are  asleep in the grave awaiting their resurrections.  Some will be raised  to life in the 1st resurrection and some raised to judgment and  destruction in the last resurrection at the white throne judgment of  God.  In order for us to unlock the mystery of the rapture (the first  resurrection) we must know that the dead are all in the grave awaiting  the call of God.  No one has yet ascended except Messiah and no one has  yet been judged and sentenced to the second death.  We know that the  dead know nothing, they are not looking down from heaven, they are not  praying for us, they are not suffering torments, but that they are  simply asleep in their graves.  For more advanced study on where the  dead are now please refer to yesterday's study:   &lt;a href="http://whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com/2007/11/where-dead-are-now.html" target="_blank"&gt;http://&lt;wbr&gt;whatthebibleteachesabout.&lt;wbr&gt;blogspot.com/2007/11/where-&lt;wbr&gt;dead-are-now.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If there are only 2 resurrections then the Word must agree with our  thinking.  Pre-trib rapture says the 1st resurrection happens before the  great tribulation and the reign of the Anti-Christ.   Mid-trib rapture  says the 1st resurrection will happen after the 3/5 years of peace under  the rule of the Anti-Christ, but before the wrath of God (second 3.5  years).  And the post-trib rapture says it will be after the 7 years of  the Anti-Christ at the end of Armageddon.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All my Christian life I was a pre-trib rapture believer until one verse  jumped out at me and knocked down my house of cards.  My former belief  could not unlock the mystery.  What was that verse?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Line upon line:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was always a pre-trib believer, believing as  most of the Christian world that Messiah would come and take the  believers out of the world prior to the Anti-Christ.  In fact it would  be the church leaving that would allow the Anti-Christ to take over.   Oh, I had all the good arguments to prove my theory.  Everything worked  out just fine in my mind, until I began to understand where the dead are  now and that there are &lt;u&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;only&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/u&gt; 2 resurrections.   Meaning that everyone that doesn't make it in the first resurrection  (the rapture) will not be resurrected from the dead until after the  1,000 year reign of Messiah upon the earth.  If you think about it you  will see then, according to my old belief, that if you didn't go in the  rapture you would not rule and reign with Messiah during the 1,000  years.  And then one verse caused my house of cards to fall to the  ground.  If the first resurrection (Rapture) takes place before the  Anti-Christ reign and there is no other resurrection until after the  1,000 years what will I do with this verse?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rev 20:4&lt;br /&gt;4    And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and  judgment was given unto them: and &lt;u&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;I saw the souls of them that  were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and  which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had  received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they  lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/u&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here we have resurrected people who died during the mark of  the Beast, during the beast reign and they took take part in the 1st  resurrection.  Now I have to move my time table to include all the  martyrs of the Beast reign, for they are definitely in the 1st  resurrection!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Line upon line:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rev 8:2-6&lt;br /&gt;2   &lt;u&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt; And I saw the  seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given &lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;seven trumpets&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3    And another angel  came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given  unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all  saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.&lt;br /&gt;4    And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the  saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand.&lt;br /&gt;5    And the  angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it  into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings,  and an earthquake.&lt;br /&gt;6    &lt;u&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;And the seven angels which had the &lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;seven  trumpets prepared themselves to sound.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I  had to move my time-line of the Rapture from before the rule of the  Anti-Christ till after the reign of the Anti-Christ because those  persecuted during the rule of the Anti-Christ will be in the 1st  resurrection.  Since there are only 2 resurrections and the dead don't  go immediately anywhere (heaven or torments)  it was necessary for me to  understand unless the 1st resurrection ocurred after the reign of the  Anti-Christ the martyred could not be in the 1,000 year reign of  Messiah.  The Word says the martyred are in the 1,000 yr reign and here  is where it hit me:  I will not tell you when exactly the Rapture will  be but... the Word will:  Seven Angels and seven trumpets.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1 Cor 15:52&lt;br /&gt;52    In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, &lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;at the last trump&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;/span&gt; for the trumpet  shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall  be changed.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Be blessed,  Billy and Jan Wells&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5428265020990529879-704662879691325938?l=whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com/feeds/704662879691325938/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5428265020990529879&amp;postID=704662879691325938' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5428265020990529879/posts/default/704662879691325938'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5428265020990529879/posts/default/704662879691325938'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com/2010/03/when-is-rapture.html' title='When is the Rapture?'/><author><name>Billy Wells</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13428497218448410368</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://www.bountyhunt.com/Billy.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5428265020990529879.post-1396240972058488422</id><published>2009-12-06T12:40:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2009-12-08T12:26:44.986-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Open Letter to the United Pentecostal Church the UPC</title><content type='html'>I would like to begin by saying I am not here to debate, but would like to share some verses and insight with those that have the so called "Truth" (as the UPC declare they have). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You cannot be saved unless you are water baptized only in the Name of Jesus. (UPC)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1.  I will ask what Paul asked, "was Abraham justified in circumcision or in uncircumcision.  Answer: In uncircumcision. (Col 2:12)  Paul declared that Abraham was justified (declared not guilty) without any religious acts. (Rms 4:10)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2.  Paul said, "I thank my God that I baptized none of you...for I was called to preach the good news not  to baptize."  Does that sound like Paul teaching that water baptism is essential for salvation?  No.  (Can you imagine a UPC preacher saying I baptized no one, I am not called to baptize?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. The letter "J" did not exist until the 15th century.  Thus no name of "Jesus" to say at water baptism prior to the 15th century.  Jesus appeared to Paul on the road to Damascus an spoke to Him in the Hebrew tongue..."my name is Yeshua" (Acts 26:14).  Now we have a problem, the Lord says His name is Yeshua and UPC say unless you say "Jesus" you are lost. The UPC say: I must use a name "Jesus" to be saved, but that name as origin of less then 500 yrs.  Now we have a problem. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Does the Letter “J” exist in Hebrew, Latin or Greek?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The answer to this question is no. In fact, there was no letter ‘J’ in  any language prior to the 14th century in England. The letter did not become widely used until the 17th century.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Encyclopedia Americana contains the following quote on the J: “The form of ‘J’ was unknown in any alphabet until the 14th century. Either symbol (J,I) used initially generally had the consonantal sound of Y as in year. Gradually, the two symbols (J,l) were differentiated, the J usually acquiring consonantal force and thus becoming regarded as a consonant, and the I becoming a vowel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It was not until 1630 that the differentiation became general in England.” Note in the original 1611 version of the King James Version of the Bible there was no “J” letter in this Bible for because it did not exist. James was spelled Iames. Jesus was spelled Iesous.  (So much for Jesus name only).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. Does water baptism save us?  John indeed baptized with water, saying that they should believe on Him that would baptize with the Holy Ghost and fire.  Water baptism does not save, only Spiritual Baptism saves.  John was not saving anyone, only call men to repentance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5. You must speak in tongues to be saved.  Paul asked, "Do all speak in tongues?"  With the obvious answer being "NO!"  Paul went on to say I wish you all spoke in tongues, but better yet, that you all preached!  So does one conclude from that statement that Paul puts greater emphasis upon preaching than speaking in tongues for salvation? Yes, Paul admitted all do not speak in tongues, and it would be better than speaking in tongues that all preached. Now how can you preach if you don't speak in tongues (i.e. being saved)?  You mean in the church meeting we can have preachers that aren't saved, because they don't speak in tongues (according to the UPC).  Paul's answer yes...better to preach than to speak in tongues.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;6. The Law of the Tithe ended.  See Truth about Tithes in this blog.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;7. Is the Pastor the man of God and are we to submit as he lord's over us?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Matt 20:25-26&lt;br /&gt;25 Jesus called them together and said, "You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them.&lt;br /&gt;26 Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant,&lt;br /&gt;(NIV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A pastor, elder, sheperd, over seer, bishop (all the same office) was to be several of the members of the local church that desired the office and met the qualifications.  They were appointed by men for the position, and were not paid hirelings or professional preachers. They were to be plural in number. The Head of the Church is Christ not the pastor.  Begin "called" by God to pastor a church is not one of the Bible qualification for an overseer.  I Tim 3:1  The qualification were listed to a man could be measured to whether or not he could serve as an elder in the local assembly.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A "Holiness Standard" (list of church rules) is powerless to save anyone.  We do not measure ourselves among ourselves, and those that do are unwise.  Holiness means sanctified, which means set apart for the use of God.  Has nothing to do with right or wrong, good or bad.  It only means set apart.  Our holiness to God is not rules, touch not, taste not, handle not, but is righteousness peace and joy in the Holy Ghost.  We serve the Lord by the still small voice and not by the rules of the church which only make a show of the flesh.  The Bible calls it will worship.  It is not what we wear, or eat, or own or go or do that makes us holy.  It is being lead by the Spirit, set apart for the Master's use that makes us sanctified.  Holiness was never about good or bad, but about separation.  If I have any righteousness, it has been applied to me by Him and not of any good that I have done, lest I should boast.  I don't go there, have one of those, look at that, taste or drink this..etc. boasting of my holiness, justifying myself by my own good deeds. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Comments often associated with the UPC:&lt;br /&gt;We have the Truth.&lt;br /&gt;If you are not baptized in Jesus name you are not saved&lt;br /&gt;Unless you speak in tongues you cannot be saved&lt;br /&gt;We have a holiness standard.  (i.e. dress code)&lt;br /&gt;We must obey our pastor in all things, for he is the Man of God. &lt;br /&gt;Women can't wear men's clothes (no New Testament witness)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5428265020990529879-1396240972058488422?l=whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com/feeds/1396240972058488422/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5428265020990529879&amp;postID=1396240972058488422' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5428265020990529879/posts/default/1396240972058488422'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5428265020990529879/posts/default/1396240972058488422'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com/2009/12/open-letter-to-united-pentecostal.html' title='Open Letter to the United Pentecostal Church the UPC'/><author><name>Billy Wells</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13428497218448410368</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://www.bountyhunt.com/Billy.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5428265020990529879.post-93149847727581514</id><published>2007-11-21T04:29:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2008-01-01T10:16:09.316-06:00</updated><title type='text'>A Place called Hell</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_v75OKfU6F70/R0QJnZ08zzI/AAAAAAAAAh0/PMVq9RJYjNc/s1600-h/dante.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5135240047661731634" style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; CURSOR: hand; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_v75OKfU6F70/R0QJnZ08zzI/AAAAAAAAAh0/PMVq9RJYjNc/s320/dante.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;THE TRUTH ABOUT A PLACE CALLED “HELL”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let’s begin by laying out the facts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is no mention or teaching in the entire Old Testament of a place where the dead go that involves eternal punishment of suffering and burning. The Hebrew word “Sheol” is translated in the KJV 31 times as “grave”, 32 times as “hell”, 3 times “a pit”, but never as eternal punishment of suffering and torment for the lost. All the dead go to a place called Sheol, the “grave” after death. The ancient Israelite did not teach about a place of eternal torment. So we can see “hell” in the Old Testament is equal to the grave.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;7585 she'owl (sheh-ole');&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;or sheol (sheh-ole'); from 7592; Hades or the world of the dead (as if a subterranean retreat), including its accessories and inmates:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;KJV-- grave, hell, pit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In order to believe in a place of eternal torments, where the dead go and are never rescued, one must believe in the “immortality” of the soul. The Bible is quite plain on who alone has “immortality”. Only Jesus has immortality, He is the Life and Resurrection. He that has the Son has Life and he that has not the Son has not Life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1 Tim 6:14-16&lt;br /&gt;14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:&lt;br /&gt;15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;&lt;br /&gt;16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we believe that the unsaved dead are immediately sent to “eternal torments to be punished” then we must believe that they have been sentenced to punishment before they have been judged. The White Throne Judgment is after the 1,000 years reign of Jesus on the Earth, when all the dead are judged. As a result of that belief then, we have the wicked in “hell” in torments waiting for the Judgment day when they will be taken out of hell to be judged and then cast back into hell and torments. Why? If they are already in torments, then why not leave them there? Because all the dead are in the grave asleep awaiting the resurrection.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we believe that the unsaved dead will burn forever in a “hell” of eternal torment, then we must believe that the consequence of sin is eternal suffering, tormenting fire forever and ever time without end. If the consequence of sin is eternal suffering time without end, then Jesus did not pay “sin’s debt” when He died on the cross, because He only died, and did not spend eternity in a burning hell to pay for sin. But if we look at the Word, the Bible says the wages of sin is “death”. In light of that, we see Jesus did pay the sin debt in full. Result is that burning and suffering forever is not required of the soul that sins, but only death.  "The soul that sins, it shall die. "&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The wages of sin is death but the gift of God is Eternal life. The Word does not say the wages of sin is eternal punishment of torments time without end. Jesus paid the sin debt, so that we can inherit eternal life. If the soul is immortal, as some teach, why do we need eternal life, if everyone already has eternal life (immortality of the soul)?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Word declares the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is Eternal Life. Nothing here mentions eternal torments. The Lord told Israel that He set before them life and death, choose life that they may live. There are only 2 choices here, life or death, and no mention of eternal torments.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some teach that the dead, immediately upon death, go to one of two places, either heaven or hell. Yet the Word declares that no one has ascended to heaven but the Son of Man. John 3:13. Where was Lazarus when he was dead in the tomb? Did Jesus call him forth from heaven or paradise, to come again to this wicked world? Or did he raise him from sleep, like He said, “Lazarus sleeps”? When Jesus was in the tomb for 3 days and 3 nights, did He ascend to heaven? Or was He asleep in the tomb for the 3 days and nights? After His resurrection He told Mary, “Don’t touch me for I have not yet ascended.” So during the 3 days in the tomb He did not ascend. John 20:17&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Bible teaches that when men die, they sleep in the grave, tomb until the resurrection. There are to be 2 resurrections, the first and the last. Why would there be a resurrection if we were already alive somewhere else? The Bible says the rest of the dead “lived not” again until after the 1,000 years were finished. So the Bible says the dead are not alive, but asleep.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Paul never taught about an eternal torment, or place of suffering called “hell”. And Paul declared that he spoke the whole council of God. How could Paul leave out something so important as a place called hell where the ungodly would suffer forever and ever time without end?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Lord God taught me to forgive my enemies, and yet will He burn his forever and ever time without end in place called hell. Or did we misunderstand hell (the grave) with eternal torments?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The word “hell” in the New Testament is derived from 3 Greek words: Hades, Gehenna, Tartaros. “Hades” is the Greek equal to “Sheol” of the Old Testament used 10 times in the New Testament, and is the grave. “Gehenna” is used 12 times in the New Testament, it was the equivalent of a dumpsite where garbage and dead animals were thrown, whose fire never went out and the worm never died, though the destruction of the trash and animals was complete, there was always enough new garbage to keep things going. And finally, only one time in the whole Bible the word “Tartaros” which means to hold captive or incarcerate, and is only used once in the Bible speaking of Satan and the evil spirits, which cannot die, but will be held in bondage forever. So we can see how men could be confused into thinking the wicked men will go where the devil and his angels go, but not so according to the Word of God. All those judged whose name is not written in the Lamb’s book of Life will have their part in the Lake of Fire, which is the second death. The heathen was created for destruction, not everlasting torments. Pv 10:29, Isa 1:28.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we rightly divide the Word of God, we understand that the wages of sin is death, and Jesus paid that debt for sin completely when He died. He remained in the tomb 3 days and nights and did not ascend to heaven until after the resurrection. No one else has ever ascended to heaven but the Son of Man. The rest of the dead lived not again until the second resurrection, when all the dead will be raised from the grave (hell) to be judged. After such judgment, those not found written in the Lambs book of Life will be cast into the Lake of Fire, the second Death, for destruction. Paul taught that the dead in Christ are asleep and will rise to meet Him in the air at the last trumpet of God. Paul made one statement, “absent in the flesh and present with the Lord”, not to say that he, Paul, is not in the grave awaiting the resurrection of those in Christ. Paul is asleep in the grave but he has no knowledge of the passing of time (for the dead know nothing). Paul closes his eyes in death and awakes in the presence of the Lord, at the first resurrection. (a 2000 year period between).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What about the parable of the rich man and Lazarus, told to us by Jesus?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We must ask ourselves what was the purpose of this parable?&lt;br /&gt;Was it to teach us about salvation? What did the rich man do to be lost and what did Lazarus do to be saved? Nothing, but the Jews, who were being spoken to, thought riches spoke of being righteousness, and poverty spoke of being cursed. Jesus contradicted that with this parable.&lt;br /&gt;Is it possible that the dead speak back and forth between the saved and lost? Can the lost see the saved? Can the Bible contradict itself? The Bible says the dead know nothing.&lt;br /&gt;The plea was for Lazarus to be raised from the dead and sent back as a sign to the Jews. Lazarus was indeed raised from the dead, and they did not believe, but only plotted to kill both Lazarus and Jesus after the resurrection of Lazarus.&lt;br /&gt;The purpose of this parable was to teach of the resurrection from the dead, as a sign. Both Jesus and Lazarus were resurrected from the dead and still the Jews did not believe. The purpose of this parable was not to teach instructions for salvation, or the result of being lost.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jude 1:7&lt;br /&gt;7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2 Pet 2:6&lt;br /&gt;6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And example of what is going to happen to the ungodly, they will be burned to ashes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Isn’t it amazing that when we read the Word, we see what we want to see?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Are Sodom and Gomorrha still burning, even now with that eternal fire? No, they suffered the vengeance of eternal fire and were burned to ashes, as an example of what will happen to the ungodly and those without Life in them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Fear has torment, and He did not give us a spirit of fear, but of peace love and a sound mind. The Truth sets us free. So when we know the real truth about a place called “Hell” (the grave) we are set free from torment. Be blessed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Billy Wells&lt;br /&gt;Billy20772@gmail.com&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5428265020990529879-93149847727581514?l=whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com/feeds/93149847727581514/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5428265020990529879&amp;postID=93149847727581514' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5428265020990529879/posts/default/93149847727581514'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5428265020990529879/posts/default/93149847727581514'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com/2007/11/place-called-hell.html' title='A Place called Hell'/><author><name>Billy Wells</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13428497218448410368</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://www.bountyhunt.com/Billy.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_v75OKfU6F70/R0QJnZ08zzI/AAAAAAAAAh0/PMVq9RJYjNc/s72-c/dante.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5428265020990529879.post-5761332258517192661</id><published>2007-11-21T04:25:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2007-11-21T04:28:35.301-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Once Saved always saved?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_v75OKfU6F70/R0QITZ08zyI/AAAAAAAAAhs/sHGclXfWT08/s1600-h/eternal.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5135238604552720162" style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; CURSOR: hand; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_v75OKfU6F70/R0QITZ08zyI/AAAAAAAAAhs/sHGclXfWT08/s320/eternal.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Truth About Once Saved&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is a teaching in the Church that says, once a person has received their salvation they cannot lose it. It has also been called “once saved always saved” doctrine. So let’s examine the Word of God and see what the Bible has to say about this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The people of the Old Testament were called the Church in the Wilderness. (Acts 7:38) They ate of the heavenly bread (manna) a type of Jesus, and they all drank a type of living water, from the Rock. They looked to the Lamb to remove sin, and were all baptized in the Sea and under the Cloud, a type of water and Spirit baptism. Now if we know that they were part of the Church, as we are, then we can see how God dealt with the disobedient believers. (I Cor. 10:1-11)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Heb 3:8-12&lt;br /&gt;8 Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:&lt;br /&gt;9 When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.&lt;br /&gt;10 Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.&lt;br /&gt;11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)&lt;br /&gt;12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The above verse is speaking to “brethren” not the lost of the world, and the warning is for them to not depart from the living God with an evil heart of unbelief. If we do, then by example of the Church in the Wilderness, we know our fate. They all died without receiving the “rest of God”.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Matt 10:22&lt;br /&gt;22 "And you will be hated by all on account of My name, but it is the one who has endured to the end who will be saved.&lt;br /&gt;(NAS)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The above verse warns us to continue to the end, steadfastly to be saved. As we can read, it is not the one who starts only, but he that starts and finishes the race, who will win the prize.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Luke 9:62&lt;br /&gt;62 But Jesus said to him, "No one, after putting his hand to the plow and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God."&lt;br /&gt;(NAS)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Again, we find verse teaching us that once we start we are not to look back, remember Lot’s wife. Putting your hand to the plow speaks of beginning, and looking back speaks to us of desiring the old life. Couple this verse with Heb 11:15, and we see, we must count ourselves strangers to this world and continue in faith seeking that Heavenly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We are saved by grace thru faith. It is our faith and God’s grace that saves us. If we lose our faith then there is no grace available to save us. See below.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gal 5:4-5&lt;br /&gt;4 You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.&lt;br /&gt;5 For we through the Spirit, by faith, are waiting for the hope of righteousness.&lt;br /&gt;(NAS)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Heb 12:15-17&lt;br /&gt;15 Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;&lt;br /&gt;16 Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.&lt;br /&gt;17 For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The above verse speaks to us of believers who fail of the grace of God that allow bitterness or sin to corrupt them, they are compared to Esau, who found no repentance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;John 15:2&lt;br /&gt;2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;John 15:6&lt;br /&gt;6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The above verse speaks of believers (branches) that are attached to the Vine (Jesus). Any believer that does not bear fruit will be cut off from Jesus and cast into the fire and be burned. You can not be a branch in Him, unless you had, by faith, been grafted in. Thus according to this verse believers can be cut off from Jesus and be destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Paul warned that he himself must keep his body under subjection to the Spirit or suffer the fate of the “reprobates.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1 Cor 9:27&lt;br /&gt;27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. (reprobate)&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The word castaway in the original means “reprobate”.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Paul warns believers in the Church to examine themselves to see if they be in the faith or if they are reprobate (lost). In the below verse, this warning was not written to the lost but to the believing Church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2 Cor 13:5&lt;br /&gt;5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Eph 5:4-6&lt;br /&gt;4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.&lt;br /&gt;5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.&lt;br /&gt;6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Let no man deceive you” could only mean that there is a deception possible. Obviously we know that the “lost” who do such things that are mentioned above, shall not inherit the Kingdom, so of course, no one could deceive us in that. So where could they possibly deceive us? By teaching us that the “saved” who do such things, since they can’t lose their salvation, will be saved anyway. That would be deception.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The scriptures teach us that it is possible to believe in vain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1 Cor 15:1-2&lt;br /&gt;1 Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand.&lt;br /&gt;2 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.&lt;br /&gt;(NIV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The promise of salvation in the above verse is qualified with the “condition” if you hold firmly. Thus teaching us that it is possible to believe, but not continue in faith, thus we have believed in vain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Prodigal Son is a perfect example of the father’s son…&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The once saved doctrine teaches that since we are born sons of God, we cannot become unborn, thus no matter what we do we can not lose our salvation. But listen how the father described his son:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Luke 15:24&lt;br /&gt;24 For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So we see the son was dead and was lost, while still being the son.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gal 5:21&lt;br /&gt;21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The above verse, written to the Church and not to the world, warns the Church that those that do such thing, though they may be called believers, shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Of course we know that the lost shall not inherit, so obviously it is speaking of believers that do such things, shall not inherit the Kingdom of God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rev 2:4-5&lt;br /&gt;4 'But I have this against you, that you have left your first love.&lt;br /&gt;5 'Remember therefore from where you have fallen, and repent and do the deeds you did at first; or else I am coming to you, and will remove your lampstand out of its place-- unless you repent.&lt;br /&gt;(NAS)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Written to believers we must note “removing a lampstand” can only mean one thing. That they shall have not part in the Kingdom, unless they repent and return.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Exod 32:33&lt;br /&gt;33 And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rev 22:19&lt;br /&gt;19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rev 3:5&lt;br /&gt;5 He who overcomes will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but will acknowledge his name before my Father and his angels.&lt;br /&gt;(NIV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These verses together teach us that a name can be removed (blotted out) from the Book of Life, thus that person, whose name was removed will have not part in the Kingdom of God. There is only one way to have your name written into the Book of Life, and that is to be a believer. And there is one way to have your name blotted out, by being disobedient, and faithless.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Heb 6:4-8&lt;br /&gt;4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,&lt;br /&gt;5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,&lt;br /&gt;6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.&lt;br /&gt;7 For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:&lt;br /&gt;8 But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The above verse is a perfect description of someone who was a believer, saved. This is a misunderstood verse. It is speaking of a Jew, who came to Jesus and became a believer, then returned again to try to practice the Jewish religion, instead of continuing in faith. He has fallen away, and is rejected, who end is to be burned.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I feel any honest person can view the above verses and know assuredly the truth about a Church teaching that says after you have become a believer you cannot be lost, no matter what you do (good or bad). Are we to believe the Word of God, or men’s teachings?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Be blessed in Jesus,&lt;br /&gt;Billy Wells&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5428265020990529879-5761332258517192661?l=whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com/feeds/5761332258517192661/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5428265020990529879&amp;postID=5761332258517192661' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5428265020990529879/posts/default/5761332258517192661'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5428265020990529879/posts/default/5761332258517192661'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com/2007/11/once-saved-always-saved.html' title='Once Saved always saved?'/><author><name>Billy Wells</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13428497218448410368</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://www.bountyhunt.com/Billy.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_v75OKfU6F70/R0QITZ08zyI/AAAAAAAAAhs/sHGclXfWT08/s72-c/eternal.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5428265020990529879.post-4264368212087477579</id><published>2007-11-21T04:02:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2010-03-06T09:39:45.582-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Where the Dead are now</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_v75OKfU6F70/R0QHcZ08zxI/AAAAAAAAAhk/kU89-jqLlLk/s1600-h/cementery.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5135237659659915026" style="float: left; margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px;" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_v75OKfU6F70/R0QHcZ08zxI/AAAAAAAAAhk/kU89-jqLlLk/s320/cementery.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;WHERE ARE THE DEAD NOW?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;We will use the Word of God to establish were the dead are now. Some teach the dead are in heaven/hell, or in Paradise. Some teach the dead are gone and lost forever. But our question today is where, exactly, are the dead? Not only must we determine where the dead in Christ are, the dead before Christ Jesus and the lost dead are now. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Bible is quite clear, but unfortunately we have been taught to selectively view the Word, with our particular "polarized lenses" (which let in only certain light). We need to take off our predetermined opinions and open our minds to "Thus says the Word of God".&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Where did Jesus say the dead are? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Matt 9:23-25 23 When Jesus entered the ruler's house and saw the flute players and the noisy crowd,24 he said, "Go away. &lt;strong&gt;*The girl is not dead but asleep*&lt;/strong&gt;." But they laughed at him.25 After the crowd had been put outside, he went in and took the girl by the hand, and she got up.(NIV) &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;John 11:11-14 11 After he had said this, he went on to tell them, "Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep; but I am going there to wake him up."12 His disciples replied, "Lord, if he sleeps, he will get better."13 Jesus had been speaking of his death, but his disciples thought he meant natural sleep.14 So then he told them plainly, "Lazarus is dead,(NIV) &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Jesus declared Lazarus to be asleep. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;When Jesus called Lazarus forth, where did He go to call him? Jesus went to where he was, in the tomb asleep. Did He call Lazarus from heaven? Or did He call Lazarus from Paradise, back to this world to die again? No, He simply woke Lazarus from sleep, and called him forth from the grave where he was. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Where did Paul say the dead are?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;1 Cor 15:16-23 16 For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either.17 And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins.18 Then those also who *&lt;strong&gt;have fallen asleep in Christ*&lt;/strong&gt; are lost.19 If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are to be pitied more than all men.20 &lt;strong&gt;*But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who have fallen asleep.*&lt;/strong&gt;21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man.22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in his own turn: Christ, the first fruits; then, *when he comes, those who belong to him.*(NIV) &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Paul said the dead in Christ are asleep, and this is in agreement with Jesus teachings. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;When will the dead be raised? The dead that belong to Jesus will be raised when Christ comes, at the first resurrection.What does the Bible say about the dead? Are they somewhere looking down,conversing, worshiping, or leaning over heaven’s balcony looking at you? Exactly what do the dead know about what is going on in the earth? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Eccl 9:55 For the living know that they will die, &lt;strong&gt;*but the dead know nothing&lt;/strong&gt;*; they have no further reward, and even the memory of them is forgotten.(NIV) &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Isa 26:19-21 19 But your dead will live; their bodies will rise. *You who dwell in the dust, wake up* and shout for joy. Your dew is like the dew of the morning; the earth will give birth to her dead.20 Go, my people, enter your rooms and shut the doors behind you; hide yourselves for a little while until his wrath has passed by.21 See, the LORD is coming out of his dwelling to punish the people of the earth for their sins. The earth will disclose the blood shed upon her; she will conceal her slain no longer.(NIV) &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;You mean there is no one in heaven now? What about the righteous men of old, like King David, Moses, Solomon, Noah, Abraham? Are they not now in heaven? Let's hear what Jesus says about that. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;John 3:12-13 12 I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?13 &lt;strong&gt;*No one has ever gone into heaven*&lt;/strong&gt; except the one who came from heaven-- the Son of Man.(NIV) &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Well, that is before His resurrection, what about after, where is King David now? Let's hear the Word.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Acts 2:29 29 "Brothers, I can tell you confidently that the patriarch *David died and was buried, and his tomb is here to this day.*(NIV)Acts 2:3434 *&lt;strong&gt;For David did not ascend to heaven*&lt;/strong&gt;, and yet he said, "'The Lord said to my Lord: "Sit at my right hand (NIV).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;So we see, by the mouth of 2 witnesses, that the righteous dead are not in heaven, in fact no one has ascend to heaven, but Jesus who came down from heaven. David did not ascend, but died and was buried and his tomb is with us still to this day. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Where was Jesus during the 3 days and 3 nights He was buried in the tomb. Let's allow Jesus own words declare to us where He was. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;John 20:17 17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for *&lt;strong&gt;I am not yet ascended to my Father*&lt;/strong&gt;: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.(KJV)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;So during the 3 days and nights, Jesus was in the tomb, not in heaven.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;What about all the people who are in Hell (torments) now? What about the parable of the rich man and Lazarus? To correctly divide the Word of God, we know that no scripture can contradict other verses. So we must rightly divide the Word. 1. Do we believe this parable taught us about salvation, and being lost? The rich man did nothing to be lost, and Lazarus did nothing to be saved in the parable. The Jew taught that riches showed blessing and poverty a curse. Jesus reversed that thinking. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Do we believe the lost communicate with the saved across the great divide? The Bible says the dead know nothing. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. The purpose of the parable was for Lazarus to come back from the dead, which he did, but did the Jews believe? No they sought to kill Lazarus and Jesus.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;4. The purpose of the parable was to teach us to believe the Word and not miracles. But doesn't the Book of Revelation speak of the souls under the altar beheaded for the gospel? Where is the altar? Where was the blood sacrifice offered? On the earth, so the altar of sacrifice was on the earth.Calvary was the offering for sin, the altar of sacrifice.So we have the martyrs under the altar, buried in the grave (Sheol, hell). The Lord told the souls under the altar to rest a little while longer. The dead are asleep, resting in the grave, awaiting the resurrection.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Rev 6:9-119 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw *&lt;strong&gt;under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held&lt;/strong&gt;*:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that *they should rest yet for a little season*, until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.(KJV)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;But didn't Paul say, "Absent in the flesh and present with the Lord? Doesn't that mean when we die we immediately go to the presence of the Lord? No, for no man has ascended into heaven. The dead know nothing, so they are not aware of the passing of time. The dead close their eyes in death and open them again in the resurrection, which seems but a minute, but could well be the passing of thousands of years. This agrees with the rest of the Word. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;But are there not millions in torments burning forever and ever now? Don't the dead go immediately to their eternal reward? Answer: Would it be right for the dead to be punished before their judgment? No! After judgment the wicked will be cast into the Lake of Fire,the Second Death. Let's hear what the Word says about the unrighteous dead.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1Thes 4:13-18&lt;br /&gt;13 Brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant about those who fall asleep, or to grieve like the rest of men, who have no hope.&lt;br /&gt;14 We believe that Jesus died and rose again and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him.&lt;br /&gt;15 According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep.&lt;br /&gt;16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.&lt;br /&gt;17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.&lt;br /&gt;18 Therefore encourage each other with these words.&lt;br /&gt;(NIV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Above is exactly what Paul preached. Let’s review: Paul says I don’t want you ignorant about the dead (those who fall asleep). He could have stopped right here and said, “They are with Jesus”. But he did not! What did he say? He said when Jesus comes from heaven, He will bring the dead with Him that are now in heaven? NO! He said when Jesus comes from heaven He will raise the dead first. Jesus does not bring them with Him until after He raises them from the dead, out of the grave. The dead are raised, brought back to life, at the first resurrection.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Rev 20:4-74 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshiped the beast,neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.5 *But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished*. This is the first resurrection. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;(The dead are not alive some where, the rest of the dead lived not again, until after the 1,000 years.) 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection:on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,(KJV)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Rev 20:11-15 11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life:and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.13 *And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell (the grave) delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works*.14 And death and hell (the grave) were cast into the lake of fire.This is the second death.15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.(KJV)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Here we see the order of Resurrection. The first resurrection, the dead in Christ are awakened to live with Jesus for 1,000 years on the earth, then at the end of the 1,000 years, the rest of the dead will be raised(awakened) to be judged. No one will be punished before their judgment day.Where then is the Lake of Fire? Peter spoke to us about that:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;2 Pet 3:10-1310 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, where in the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwells righteousness.(KJV)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Here we have examined the Word concerning the state of the dead. No one is in heaven, and the wicked have not been judged yet, thus cannot be suffering for their sins yet. There are 2 resurrections. The first when Jesus comes,and all the dead in Christ shall be raised, but the rest of the dead lived not again until after the 1,000 years. At the 2nd resurrection all the dead will be brought forth from their sleep to be judged, after which they will be cast into the Lake of Fire, consuming the heavens and the earth, and a New Earth and a New Heavens will be created.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Be Blessed,&lt;br /&gt;Billy Wells&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5428265020990529879-4264368212087477579?l=whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com/feeds/4264368212087477579/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5428265020990529879&amp;postID=4264368212087477579' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5428265020990529879/posts/default/4264368212087477579'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5428265020990529879/posts/default/4264368212087477579'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com/2007/11/where-dead-are-now.html' title='Where the Dead are now'/><author><name>Billy Wells</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13428497218448410368</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://www.bountyhunt.com/Billy.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_v75OKfU6F70/R0QHcZ08zxI/AAAAAAAAAhk/kU89-jqLlLk/s72-c/cementery.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5428265020990529879.post-6950278453848622748</id><published>2007-11-21T04:00:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2007-11-21T04:01:55.766-06:00</updated><title type='text'>End Times</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_v75OKfU6F70/R0QB3Z08zwI/AAAAAAAAAhc/48bmcwhx47M/s1600-h/nuclear.blast"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5135231526446616322" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_v75OKfU6F70/R0QB3Z08zwI/AAAAAAAAAhc/48bmcwhx47M/s320/nuclear.blast" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Truth about End Times&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Matt 24:3&lt;br /&gt;3          And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Three questions asked here:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1.  When will the Temple be destroyed?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Matt 24:1‑2&lt;br /&gt;1          And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.&lt;br /&gt;2          And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;                                                70AD&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Matt 24:15‑20&lt;br /&gt;15        When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)&lt;br /&gt;16        Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:&lt;br /&gt;17        Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:&lt;br /&gt;18        Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.&lt;br /&gt;19        And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!&lt;br /&gt;20        But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. What are the signs of your coming?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Matt 24:4‑14&lt;br /&gt;4          And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.&lt;br /&gt;5          For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.&lt;br /&gt;6          And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.&lt;br /&gt;7          For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.&lt;br /&gt;8          All these are the beginning of sorrows.&lt;br /&gt;9          Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.&lt;br /&gt;10        And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.&lt;br /&gt;11        And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.&lt;br /&gt;12        And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.&lt;br /&gt;13        But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Matt 24:27‑28&lt;br /&gt;27        For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.&lt;br /&gt;28        For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. The sign of the End of the Age (World)?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;14        And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                                                TRIBULATION (JACOB’S / NATURAL ISRAEL)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Matt 24:21‑31&lt;br /&gt;21        For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.&lt;br /&gt;22        And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.&lt;br /&gt;23        Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.&lt;br /&gt;24        For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.&lt;br /&gt;25        Behold, I have told you before.&lt;br /&gt;26        Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.&lt;br /&gt;27        For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.&lt;br /&gt;28        For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.&lt;br /&gt;29        Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:&lt;br /&gt;30        And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.&lt;br /&gt;31        And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jacob’s Trouble.  (Persecution of Natural Israel by the AntiChrist) (Tribulation)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jer 30:5‑8&lt;br /&gt;5          For thus saith the LORD; We have heard a voice of trembling, of fear, and not of peace.&lt;br /&gt;6          Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness?&lt;br /&gt;7          Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.&lt;br /&gt;8          For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the day when the Lord shall break the yoke off Jacob (natural Israel). He will at this time restore the Kingdom and sit on David’s throne, beginning the 1,000 year reign.        &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The kingdoms of this world shall become the kingdoms of our God.  There is a time coming when God will subdue all the kingdoms of this world under His authority.  When the meek shall truly inherit the earth.  When He will at this time restore the Kingdom to Israel.  And His  Holy Mountain shall fill all the earth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Acts 1:6‑7&lt;br /&gt;6          When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?&lt;br /&gt;7          And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;            &lt;br /&gt;                                                                             &lt;br /&gt;                                                1,000 YEAR REIGN&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jer 3:17&lt;br /&gt;17        At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the LORD; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the LORD, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rev 20:4‑7&lt;br /&gt;4          And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.&lt;br /&gt;5          But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.&lt;br /&gt;6          Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.&lt;br /&gt;7          And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is a 1,000 year period when there will be no Tempter and we will rule and reign with Jesus for 1,000 year period.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                                                1 Cor 15:25‑26&lt;br /&gt;25        For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.&lt;br /&gt;26        The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1 Cor 15:51‑55&lt;br /&gt;51        Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,&lt;br /&gt;52        In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.&lt;br /&gt;53        For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.&lt;br /&gt;54        So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.&lt;br /&gt;55        O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;FIRST RESURRECTION&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rev 20:4‑5&lt;br /&gt;4          And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.&lt;br /&gt;5          But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Zech 8:3‑8&lt;br /&gt;3          Thus saith the LORD; I am returned unto Zion, and will dwell in the midst of Jerusalem: and Jerusalem shall be called a city of truth; and the mountain of the LORD of hosts the holy mountain.&lt;br /&gt;4          Thus saith the LORD of hosts; There shall yet old men and old women dwell in the streets of Jerusalem, and every man with his staff in his hand for very age.&lt;br /&gt;5          And the streets of the city shall be full of boys and girls playing in the streets thereof.&lt;br /&gt;6          Thus saith the LORD of hosts; If it be marvellous in the eyes of the remnant of this people in these days, should it also be marvellous in mine eyes? saith the LORD of hosts.&lt;br /&gt;7          Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Behold, I will save my people from the east country, and from the west country;&lt;br /&gt;8          And I will bring them, and they shall dwell in the midst of Jerusalem: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God, in truth and in righteousness.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Isa 2:2‑5&lt;br /&gt;2          And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.&lt;br /&gt;3          And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.&lt;br /&gt;4          And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.&lt;br /&gt;5          O house of Jacob, come ye, and let us walk in the light of the LORD.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;YEARLY PILGRIMAGE TO JERUSALEM REQUIRED&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Zech 14:16-17&lt;br /&gt;16        And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.&lt;br /&gt;17        And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Second resurrection happens just before the creation of a New Heaven and New Earth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;THE SECOND RESSURECTION&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                                    WHITE THRONE JUDGEMENT&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rev 20:11‑15&lt;br /&gt;11        And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.&lt;br /&gt;12        And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.&lt;br /&gt;13        And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.&lt;br /&gt;14        And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.&lt;br /&gt;15        And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Joel 3:15‑21&lt;br /&gt;15        The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.&lt;br /&gt;16        The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel.&lt;br /&gt;17        So shall ye know that I am the LORD your God dwelling in Zion, my holy mountain: then shall Jerusalem be holy, and there shall no strangers pass through her any more.&lt;br /&gt;18        And it shall come to pass in that day, that the mountains shall drop down new wine, and the hills shall flow with milk, and all the rivers of Judah shall flow with waters, and a fountain shall come forth of the house of the LORD, and shall water the valley of Shittim.&lt;br /&gt;19        Egypt shall be a desolation, and Edom shall be a desolate wilderness, for the violence against the children of Judah, because they have shed innocent blood in their land.&lt;br /&gt;20        But Judah shall dwell for ever, and Jerusalem from generation to generation.&lt;br /&gt;21        For I will cleanse their blood that I have not cleansed: for the LORD dwelleth in Zion.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;END OF THE WORLD (PRESENT AGE)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What will the end look like?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BAPTISM BY FIRE                                     &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NEW HEAVEN NEW EARTH&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2 Pet 3:10‑13&lt;br /&gt;10        But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.&lt;br /&gt;11        Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,&lt;br /&gt;12        Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?&lt;br /&gt;13        Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;THOUSAND GENERATIONS&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the thousand generations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rev 21:1‑4&lt;br /&gt;1          And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.&lt;br /&gt;2          And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.&lt;br /&gt;3          And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.&lt;br /&gt;4          And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;His everlasting covenant, promised to give Canaan to Abraham and his desendents.  Abraham died in faith not having received the Promise.  Heb 11.  Is God going to go back on His Word?   NO!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Heb 11:8-10&lt;br /&gt;8          By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.&lt;br /&gt;9          By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:&lt;br /&gt;10        For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Heb 11:13-16&lt;br /&gt;13        These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.&lt;br /&gt;14        For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country.&lt;br /&gt;15        And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.&lt;br /&gt;16        But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1 Chr 16:15‑18&lt;br /&gt;15        Be ye mindful always of his covenant; the word which he commanded to a thousand generations;&lt;br /&gt;16        Even of the covenant which he made with Abraham, and of his oath unto Isaac;&lt;br /&gt;17        And hath confirmed the same to Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an everlasting covenant,&lt;br /&gt;18        Saying, Unto thee will I give the land of Canaan, the lot of your inheritance;&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Israel shall inherit their everlasting covenant of Canaan, and Abraham will lead the procession.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Luke 13:28‑29&lt;br /&gt;28        There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.&lt;br /&gt;29        And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Isa 11:6‑10&lt;br /&gt;6          The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.&lt;br /&gt;7          And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.&lt;br /&gt;8          And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.&lt;br /&gt;9          They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.&lt;br /&gt;10        And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Isa 65:17‑25&lt;br /&gt;17        For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.&lt;br /&gt;18        But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.&lt;br /&gt;19        And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.&lt;br /&gt;20        There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.&lt;br /&gt;21        And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.&lt;br /&gt;22        They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.&lt;br /&gt;23        They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the LORD, and their offspring with them.&lt;br /&gt;24        And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.&lt;br /&gt;25        The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Isa 25:8&lt;br /&gt;8          He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rev 21:2‑5&lt;br /&gt;2          And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.&lt;br /&gt;3          And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.&lt;br /&gt;4          And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.&lt;br /&gt;5          And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just as the Believer must be born again of Water and Spirit.  And everything used in the Temple had to pass through the water and the fire.  So God’s whole creation will be baptized in water (Noah) and fire (2 Pet) before the New Creation.  What we must pass through as believers, God will do to His whole creation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5428265020990529879-6950278453848622748?l=whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com/feeds/6950278453848622748/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5428265020990529879&amp;postID=6950278453848622748' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5428265020990529879/posts/default/6950278453848622748'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5428265020990529879/posts/default/6950278453848622748'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com/2007/11/end-times.html' title='End Times'/><author><name>Billy Wells</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13428497218448410368</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://www.bountyhunt.com/Billy.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_v75OKfU6F70/R0QB3Z08zwI/AAAAAAAAAhc/48bmcwhx47M/s72-c/nuclear.blast' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5428265020990529879.post-497940204722690607</id><published>2007-11-21T03:57:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2007-11-21T03:59:42.429-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Tithes</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_v75OKfU6F70/R0QBVZ08zvI/AAAAAAAAAhU/58cmTPXCGfk/s1600-h/tithes.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5135230942331064050" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_v75OKfU6F70/R0QBVZ08zvI/AAAAAAAAAhU/58cmTPXCGfk/s320/tithes.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;THE TRUTH ABOUT TITHES&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Eph 1:1-3&lt;br /&gt;1              Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:&lt;br /&gt;2              Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.&lt;br /&gt;3              Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would like to repeat what the Word says, that we have been blessed and are blessed with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ.   Now, if we have been and are blessed with all spiritual blessings, let me ask why?  Why are we blessed?  Is it because we earned it?  Is it because we deserved it?  Is it because we have done something to possess it?  Or is it because He gave it to us, freely, with out any action upon our part?  In other words, do we possess all spiritual blessings because of the free gift, the grace of God, or because of something that we did?  Of course the answer is the grace of God gives us freely all things pertaining to life and godliness.  Freely.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2 Pet 1:3&lt;br /&gt;3              According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According to this verse we already possess all things that pertain to life and godliness, and this must include all spiritual blessings.  In other words we are blessed with all spiritual blessing by the grace of God.  It is our Father's good pleasure to give to us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Eph 1:5-6&lt;br /&gt;5              Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,&lt;br /&gt;6              To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He has made us the accepted.  We have already been made to sit in heavenly places in Christ, by His grace and love toward us, that apart from good that we have done, He freely has given us blessing upon blessing.  That is His expressed love, grace.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, if we are justified by the keeping of the Law then grace is no longer grace, that means divine favor comes from the keeping of the Law.  But we know that is not true, because grace is given freely by God apart from the works of righteousness, or keeping of the Law, or what ever we may do.  Grace and God’s goodness is not dependent upon my good deeds, but upon God’s faithfulness and free gift.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rom 3:20&lt;br /&gt;20           Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin.&lt;br /&gt;(NIV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now my question to the Body is this:  "If we are already blessed with a blessing, how then can we be cursed with a curse?"  Is that possible, to be blessed and cursed at the same time?   The "pro tither" is always quick to quote the verse from Malachi to prove we must do something to be blessed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mal 3:8-9&lt;br /&gt;8              Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.&lt;br /&gt;9              Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.&lt;br /&gt;(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, Bible reader please tell me, as a Saint of the Most High God, are we, the Body of Christ, blessed with a blessing or are we cursed with a curse?   Did the blessings that we are blessed with come from doing some righteous act, or the keeping of the Law? And does the curse come from not doing some righteous act and not keeping the Law?  You be the judge.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Word of God is true and let every man be a liar.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why didn’t Jesus receive tithes of men?  Why wasn’t the New Testament church commanded to pay tithes?  What was required of the New Testament gentile church?  Only the following:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1.        Refrain from fornication.&lt;br /&gt;2.        Refrain from eating meats offered to idols&lt;br /&gt;3.        Don’t drink blood.&lt;br /&gt;4.        Don’t eat meat from animals that were strangled.&lt;br /&gt;5.        Remember the poor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nothing was mentioned of circumcision, keeping the Law or paying tithes.  If it was so important for the Gentile Church to pay tithes in order to buy a blessing, wouldn’t the Word of God so state?  Where is the paying of tithes mentioned in the requirements to the Gentile Church?  Wouldn’t it spell out plainly in the New Testament that if you don’t pay tithes you are “cursed with a curse”?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is no mention of monies being collected by the New Testament Church and placed in some kind of Church treasury.  There is no mention in the Bible of the New Testament of Born Again Christians taking their tithes and offering to a Church building, to put in the offering plate each week.  In fact the opposite is true.  There was to be a collection for the poor saints in Judea (see above “remember the poor”).  The belivers were instructed to lay in store at home, in his own personal place of save keeping, a portion of his earnings, for the giving to the poor in Judea.  It was a specific purpose and the collecting was to be done personally and keep at home for day when the offering would be sent to the poor in Judea  Some how the modern CORPORATION Church equates this to paying tithes and offerings each meeting, so they pass the plate and preach “Give”.  We are giving, not to the poor, but to the CORPORATION church i.e. (men’s kingdoms).  How much of the CORPORATION money actually gets to the poor?  Very little, if any at all!   Doesn’t most of the budget go to running the CORPORATION and salaries for the paid professionals?   Some how, we have equated the work of the Lord with a CORPORATION CHURCH, and building up men’s kingdoms.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The responsibility of each and every Christian is good stewardship.  We are to be held accountable with what we have done with the money we have offered to the Lord.  Do you really think just going in and dropping money in the plate is good stewardship?  Do you really think the Kingdom of God is to be huge buildings, land, padded pews, stain-glassed windows, and preacher’s salaries?   Do you really believe that God is pleased with all the money spent to build up our personal egos with the CORPORATION Church Buildings and things?  While the poor, hungry and those in prison continue to suffer, so we can look good at the “First Church”?  When we give into the offering plate to run the CORPORATION Church, are we really planting into the Kingdom of God?  Or are we really just “Unfaithful” stewards?  Do we really want to blindly relinquish our responsibility to “remember the poor”? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just suppose there was a Body ministry that did not spend large sums of money on church buildings, lawn maintenance, professional salaries, parsonages, building programs, utility bills, pastor’s cars, TV/ Radio ministries, and really did “remember the poor”?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why are we wasting God’s money trying to make the CORPORATION Church bigger?  The Body of Christ, the true Church is not a building/ nor organization, but believers in the Lord Jesus.  We have the commission from God to “remember the poor”, and not to build buildings and denominations!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2 Cor 9:7-15&lt;br /&gt;7              Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.&lt;br /&gt;8              And God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work.&lt;br /&gt;9              As it is written: "He has scattered abroad his gifts to the poor; his righteousness endures forever."&lt;br /&gt;10            Now he who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will also supply and increase your store of seed and will enlarge the harvest of your righteousness.&lt;br /&gt;11            You will be made rich in every way so that you can be generous on every occasion, and through us your generosity will result in thanksgiving to God.&lt;br /&gt;12            This service that you perform is not only supplying the needs of God's people but is also overflowing in many expressions of thanks to God.&lt;br /&gt;13            Because of the service by which you have proved yourselves, men will praise God for the obedience that accompanies your confession of the gospel of Christ, and for your generosity in sharing with them and with everyone else.&lt;br /&gt;14            And in their prayers for you their hearts will go out to you, because of the surpassing grace God has given you.&lt;br /&gt;15            Thanks be to God for his indescribable gift!&lt;br /&gt;(NIV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The most striking word in the above verse is “under compulsion”.  Have you ever been threatened if you don’t pay tithes?  That is “compulsion”.  When a New Testament preacher uses Malachi 3: 8-9 to prove you must pay tithes or be curse, he is using “compulsion” and not rightly dividing the Word of Truth. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The question “pro-tither” will raise is this: “What about Abraham and what about Jacob, they paid tithes before the Law?”  Answer: Abraham paid a tithe of the spoils of one war, only one time, and used none of his own wealth to pay the tenth part.  Jacob made a deal with God that, IF God would bless him, save his life and bring him again to his land, he would once and only once, pay 10% of all he owned.  So as we can see from the Word of God, neither example will support the argument that the Church is required to pay tithes.  Or that the Church is under the Law of the Tithe.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Don’t mistake “tithe paying” with “giving”.  One is free will, the other a commandment.  We are not under the commandment, but under grace.  Be blessed. Billy Wells&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5428265020990529879-497940204722690607?l=whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com/feeds/497940204722690607/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5428265020990529879&amp;postID=497940204722690607' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5428265020990529879/posts/default/497940204722690607'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5428265020990529879/posts/default/497940204722690607'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com/2007/11/tithes.html' title='Tithes'/><author><name>Billy Wells</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13428497218448410368</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://www.bountyhunt.com/Billy.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_v75OKfU6F70/R0QBVZ08zvI/AAAAAAAAAhU/58cmTPXCGfk/s72-c/tithes.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5428265020990529879.post-2663810297698779581</id><published>2007-11-21T03:22:00.006-06:00</published><updated>2011-10-28T19:26:23.671-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I Don't Have Enough Faith to Believe in the Trinity</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_v75OKfU6F70/R0P6e508zuI/AAAAAAAAAhM/xfmNELW26s0/s1600-h/trinity-1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5135223408958426850" style="float: left; margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px;" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_v75OKfU6F70/R0P6e508zuI/AAAAAAAAAhM/xfmNELW26s0/s320/trinity-1.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I DON’T HAVE ENOUGH FAITH TO BELIEVE IN THE TRINITY"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They say...we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity...for there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son, another of the Holy Ghost is all one...they are not three gods, but one God...the whole three persons are co-eternal and co-equal...he therefore that will be saved must thus think of the Trinity..." (excerpts from the Athanasian Creed)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The term “Trinity” not located anywhere in the Bible and first came on the Christian scene in 150 AD and was finally canonized (made church dogma) in 325 AD by a pagan Constantine.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“…while men slept, his enemy came in and sowed tares…”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Abraham taught his 2 sons correctly that God was One and there was only one God. From Abraham we have Islam’s Allah, and Israel’s Jehovah. All other religions in the world without exception are polytheistic, believing in many gods, or plural gods.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Simply by changing the Jewish faith and authors of the Bible from One God (as they taught) to a Trinity they (polytheist) were able to have their cake and eat it too. Constantine was a pagan believing in plural gods. When he embraced the Christian faith he wanted a plural God. The Trinity doctrine is a blending of polytheism and monotheism.  A hybrid god.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;A new and unique hybrid faith was born:  The Trinity!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Tertullian, a lawyer and presbyter of the third-century Church in Carthage, was the first to use the word "Trinity" when he put forth the theory that the Son and the Spirit participate in the being of God, but all are of one being of substance with the Father.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;A Formal Doctrine Is Drawn Up:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When controversy over the matter of the Trinity blew up in 318 between two church men from Alexandria--Arius, the deacon, and Alexander, his bishop-- Emperor Constantine stepped into the fray.Although Christian dogma was a complete mystery to him, he did realize that a unified church was necessary for a strong kingdom. When negotiation failed to settle the dispute, Constantine called for the first ecumenical council in Church history in order to settle the matter once and for all. Six weeks after the 300 bishops first gathered at Nicea in 325, the doctrine of the Trinity was hammered out. The God of the Christians was now seen as having three essences, or natures, in the form of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Church Puts Its Foot Down:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The matter was far from settled, however, despite high hopes for such on the part of Constantine. Arius and the new bishop of Alexandria, a man named Athanasius, began arguing over the matter even as the Nicene Creed was being signed; "Arianism" became a catch-word from that time onward for anyone who didn't hold to the doctrine of the Trinity. It wasn't until 451, at the Council of Chalcedon that, with the approval of the Pope, the Nicene/ Constantinople Creed was set as authoritative. Debate on the matter was no longer tolerated; to speak out against the Trinity was now considered blasphemy, and such earned stiff sentences that ranged from mutilation to death.  (Speaking against the Trinity was blasphemy!) Christians now turned on Christians, maiming and slaughtering thousands because of a difference of opinion.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Equal Lateral Triangle to represent the Trinity:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Trinity Doctrine is represented by an equal lateral triangle with each of the points on the triangle a different person in the “godhead”. The catch is that along the lines connecting each of the persons of the godhead triangle is the word “not”. In other words, the Father at the top of the triangle is not the Holy Spirit of the lower part of the triangle which is not the Son of the other lower corner of the triangle and the Son is not the Father. One God in 3 persons is the Trinity Doctrine.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Trinity doctrine It is a Great Mystery:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The authors of this doctrine say it is a great mystery and the Trinity cannot be figured out, one God in 3 persons. They say if you try to figure out the Trinity you will go crazy and if you fail to believe in the Trinity you will be lost. The authors of the Trinity say it is a Great Mystery that can’t be understood and must be accepted by faith and is essential to your salvation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Bible says the Godhead is clearly seen and understood:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Bible says that the “godhead is clearly seen being understood by the things that are made, so that they are without excuse”. Clearly seen by the things that are made, man made in the image of God, a spirit being housed in an earthly vessel. Now who is right the Bible or man?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Trinity Doctrine says there are 3 persons, co-equal, and distinct persons in the Godhead, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost. The Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Holy Ghost and the Holy Ghost is not the Father. Co-equal, co-eternal but distinct persons. Not 3 gods but one God in 3 persons. Confused yet? The Father is not the Son the Son is not the Holy Ghost and the Holy Ghost is not the Father, but not 3 gods, just 3 persons in one godhead. A great mystery which can’t be understood, but must be believed or you will be lost. In other words, unless you believe in the Trinity doctrine you will be lost.  Confused yet?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Want to buy a forgiveness of sins?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The same people who canonized the Trinity doctrine also sold forgiveness of sins for money and killed 80 million people in the inquisitions, worship Mary as the Mother of God, bow to idols and kiss the Popes ring. The same authors of the Trinity doctrine have built palaces of gold in Rome off the backs of the poor around the world. They teach that the Eucharist is the literal body and blood of Jesus changed by a miracle in every mass, and unless I believe in the Eucharist (as the literal body and blood of Jesus)  I will be lost. They pray to dead saints, pray using vain repetitions and teach about a place called purgatory. These are the authors of the Trinity Doctrine.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Where is Trinity in the Bible?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;If we are to believe in the Trinity we must first ask ourselves, why is the term not a Bible term? When was the Trinity doctrine first founded, and by who? These are important questions if we are to believe in the Trinity. Who invented it and when and why?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The authors of the doctrine must also define it:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is understood commonly by many scholars that the doctrine of the Trinity developed over a period of time. It was not until the end of the fourth century that most of the loose ends were tied up. But John of Damascus put the last touches in refining the doctrine as late as the eighth century! So, modern Trinitarianism was not fully developed until the eighth century! Louis Berkhof wrote: "The early Church Fathers...had no clear conception of the Trinity." (History of Christian Doctrines, Grand Rapids: Baker, 1937, p. 40)• Tertullian was the first man who can be said to be Trinitarian since he invented the word "Trinity".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Let’s compare the Trinity Doctrine with the Bible:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The 1st person in the Trinity is God the Father. Who is the Father of Jesus? "God the Father", they say, yet the Bible says the Holy Ghost overshadowed Mary and she conceived. So the Bible says the Holy Ghost is the Father. But the Trinity doctrine says that the Father is not the Holy Ghost. Confused?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Who is the Father?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is the Name of the Father? The Trinity doctrine says God the Father. But what is His name? Solomon built a Temple for Jehovah (YHVH), but said it could only be a place for His name. So the Temple was a place for His name, because Solomon knew God was too big to live in that house Solomon built. God wanted to fix his tent of flesh among men.  In other words God wanted to live or tabernacle among men. So He created a Temple for His name. Jesus said, “I came in my Father’s name”. “Father, I have shown the world (manifested) your name”. The Body of Christ was the Temple for the name of God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Angels carried His name from heaven. Angels said His name was to be called Jesus. Matthew said he was Emmanuel, God with us. Isaiah said the Son would be the mighty God, the everlasting father. Isa.9:6&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;God is a Spirit. God is invisible, because a spirit is invisible. But God made himself an image of his invisible self, called a Body. That Body was someone’s son, because the body was born. So when we say the Body or the Son, or Christ or Messiah we are saying the same thing. God is a Spirit, but the Body was flesh. A spirit has not flesh and bone. God did not desire the blood of bulls and goats, but a Body to do His will. The Spirit had no blood to offer, so God created a Body with blood to sacrifice. To wit, God was in Christ reconciling the World to himself. The Spirit was in the flesh. The Body was not a 2nd person in the godhead. The God of the universe was inside the flesh, the Son, the Body, reconciling the world to himself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is Jesus in the Godhead or the Godhead in Jesus?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Trinity doctrine says Jesus was in the godhead, but the Bible says the fullness of the Godhead was in Christ. The fullness of the Spirit was in flesh. The Trinity doctrine says that the name of the second person in the godhead is, "God the Son". The bible makes no such statement, "God the Son". There is no mention of “God the Son” in the entire Bible. There is the mention of the "Son of God", but not “God the Son”.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Trinity doctrine says the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are one. But that would be impossible, because the Son is flesh. So let’s see how the Bible says it correctly. The Father, “Word” and Spirit are one. The Father is Spirit, the Word is Spirit and of course the Spirit is Spirit. So you see how accurate the Bible says, Spirit and Spirit and Spirit are one Spirit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Trinity Doctrine says the Father is not the Son but separate and distinct persons. But Jesus said, “I and my Father are one”. If you have seen me you have seem my Father. Isaiah said the Son shall be called the Everlasting Father, and the Mighty God.  Isa 9:6&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;No man has at anytime seen God, but we have seen the only image of the invisible Spirit in the flesh face of Jesus. It would be like you driving down the road in a car with dark tinted windows that no one could see through. One might say there goes So and So. But the car is not So and So, but he is actually inside the car. But all we can see is the image of the person. Christ was the image of the invisible Spirit. Christ brought the Spirit out of the realm of the invisible and allowed us to see His image. The Spirit was in the flesh reconciling the world to himself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;No greater love has a man than to lay down his life for another. What shows greater love, to send someone else or to go yourself and lay down your life? God said I sought for a man, but could not find one, so my own arm brought salvation. We sing of the everlasting arm of God. We lean on that everlasting arm of God. Is it a second Person, or the arm of God revealed? The flesh of God, the arm of God could bleed and die. Can God die? No! God is a Spirit. But in order for there to be a blood sacrifice, He had to prepare Himself a body.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The fullness of God dwelt in Christ bodily, in flesh. The flesh could bleed and die, but God (Spirit) cannot bleed and die. He prepared a Body (flesh) to do His will. We beheld the only image of the invisible God. When you have seen me you have seen the Father. The Father and I are one. Before Abraham was, I am. The great I Am of Abraham, spoke to them from the lips of clay, the Body, Christ, the Son.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;There can only be one Almighty. There is only one all knowing all seeing, eternal Spirit. The Trinity doctrine says that Jesus is as much God as the Father is God. All knowing all seeing, yet distinct person of God the Son. So how can the all knowing Almighty Son pray to another all knowing Almighty Father, and ask the other all knowing Almighty Father what the first all knowing a Almighty Son does not know? Confused yet?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;How can the Almighty pray to ask Himself what He already knows? How can God pray to God? How can God ask God something God does not already know? Impossible!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Bible says the flesh (son) prayed to the Spirit (Father). The Spirit is greater than the flesh. The flesh could bleed and die, but how could Spirit bleed and die? The flesh could not know while at the same time the Spirit could know. i.e. No man knows the time of the end, not the Son (flesh) but only the Father (Spirit). How could the all knowing God the Son, not know what the all knowing God the Father knows? The Trinity must be confused. One knows what another does not know. It is quite simple when you know that flesh was not God, but God who is Spirit was resident in the flesh of the Christ. The flesh did not know the time of the end, and could pray to the Spirit. Christ, flesh, could pray to the Father, Spirit. But how could God of the Trinity pray to God of the Trinity? How can the Almighty pray to the Almighty?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Sonship of God is a dispensation. A dispensation has a beginning and an end.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Trinity Doctrine says there was a "God the Son", from all eternity, even before he had a mother. Who was God the Son’s mother before Bethlehem? But the Bible says that God in his foreknowledge created the Son, for the sacrifice, He knew in time He would need.  Ps 2:77 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.(KJV)  There is a definite beginning of the Son of God. Not an eternal "God the Son" of the Trinity. And there will also be an end of Sonship (son of God). Because a dispensation has both a beginning and ending:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;1 Cor 15:24-28 24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet.26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death.27 For he "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.(NIV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;When the last intercession of the Advocate has been made, when the Lamb has atoned for the last sin, when the last enemy has been subdued, then the Sonship will end. All will be delivered to the Spirit and the distinction will cease. Sonship is a dispensation with a beginning and an definite ending. No such thing as the eternal "God the Son". But there is the dispensation of the Flesh of God, to take away the sins of the World.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How could the Eternal God the Son die? How could anyone kill God the Son? Very hard to explain, if you believe God the Son was killed on the Cross. Quite easy to understand, if you see that God is Spirit and Spirit cannot die, but the Son was flesh and flesh can die. To wit God was in Christ. To wit, Spirit was in Flesh. So the Flesh could die and the Spirit could depart from that flesh:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Matt 27:46 46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If the Spirit had not departed from the flesh, then Christ could not have died. God did not die, but the Arm of God, the Temple of His name, the Body to do His will, was offered upon the Cross for the sins of the whole world. No man took His life, He laid it down and He picked it up again. The Spirit, Father, inside of the Son, the flesh, simply withdrew to allow the flesh to die. Then the Spirit came again to the dead body and He was raised from the dead. Not another person, but God was in Christ. The Spirit was in the Flesh, reconciling the world to Himself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Luke 10:22  22 "All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows who the Son is except the Father, and no one knows who the Father is except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him."(NIV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Flesh and blood did not reveal this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Trinity is a doctrine taught by men, but the God in Christ is revealed by God. The Trinity doctrine says it cannot be understood and is a great mystery, but the Bible contradicts the Trinity Doctrine. Rom 1:20  20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Who do men say that I, the Son of man, am? Some say you are John the Baptist, some say you are Elijah, some say you are one of the Prophets. But who do you say that I am? You are the Christ of God, (the anointed flesh of God). Flesh and blood did not reveal this to you but the Spirit. And upon this “rock” (the revelation of who I am) will I build my church. The true church is built upon the revelation of who Jesus is. Is He the second person in the Godhead? NO! Is he God the Son?  NO! Or is he the Almighty God robed in flesh.  YES! Thou art they Christ of God, (the flesh of God)!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Trinity doctrine is taught, but who Jesus really is, is revealed, a revelation of the Spirit.. The Revelation of Jesus Christ, is the unveiling of Jesus. Rev 1:88 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.(KJV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Answer these questions if you can:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How can the Son be the Almighty? (Isa 9:6)&lt;br /&gt;How can the Son be the Father?&lt;br /&gt;How can Jesus claim to be Jehovah? (before Abraham was, I Am).&lt;br /&gt;How can the Son pray to the Father?&lt;br /&gt;How can God die?&lt;br /&gt;How can God have a mother?&lt;br /&gt;All questions the Trinity doctrine cannot answer. But when you understand the Sonship dispensation, how God was robed in flesh, in Christ, then by revelation you can easily know the answers!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Prov 30:44 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?(KJV) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is His name?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Angels brought his name from heaven, Jesus/Yeshua. Paul said it was the family name of everything in heaven and earth. Jesus said He came in his Father’s name, (Jesus/Yeshua). Jesus said the Holy Ghost would come in His name (Jesus). Jesus said I have manifested the Father’s name (Jesus/Yeshua). He was named with the highest name that could be named, Jesus/Yeshua. Jesus / Yeshua means YHVH-salvation (Jehovah-saves).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jews can never bow to another god!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;If Jesus is not the Jehovah God, then the Jews can never bow to Him, for you shall have no other Gods before me and shall not bow down to them. (Jehovah speaking). But every knee will bow and tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Paul, a Jew, on the road to Damascus didn’t suddenly start believing in 2nd person in the Godhead when he looked up to heaven and ask his Jehovah God, who are you, and He said I am Jesus/Yeshua whom you persecute.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thomas a one God Jew did not suddenly start believing in a 2nd person in the godhead when he put his hands in the nail holes and fell to his knees and declared to Jesus “my Lord and my God”.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The reproach of the 1st century believers was not a second person in the Godhead, but that they declared the Great I am had a name and His name was Jesus/Yeshua. It was blasphemy to say the God of the Jews was Jesus/Yeshua!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Trinity doctrine says that God the Father and God the Son are equal. But Jesus said, "The Father is greater than I". How can that be if they are co-equal? But if you understand that Jesus was simply saying that the Spirit is greater than the Flesh, (the Father/Spirit is greater than I/Flesh) then it is plain to see.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;So you can see that the Mighty God in Christ is clearly revealed in scriptures, unlike the Trinity Doctrine taught by men, confusing and not understandable!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, who will believe our report?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5428265020990529879-2663810297698779581?l=whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com/feeds/2663810297698779581/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5428265020990529879&amp;postID=2663810297698779581' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5428265020990529879/posts/default/2663810297698779581'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5428265020990529879/posts/default/2663810297698779581'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://whatthebibleteachesabout.blogspot.com/2007/11/i-dont-have-enough-faith-to-believe-in.html' title='I Don&apos;t Have Enough Faith to Believe in the Trinity'/><author><name>Billy Wells</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13428497218448410368</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://www.bountyhunt.com/Billy.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_v75OKfU6F70/R0P6e508zuI/AAAAAAAAAhM/xfmNELW26s0/s72-c/trinity-1.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>
